Subjective question (drops to flat)
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Subjective question (drops to flat)
I really hate drops to flat, but Kansas isn't known for transitions.
So I was out doing a little urban session and there's just not a whole lot of "fun terrain" around here. I found a progressive ledge to flat grass and was wondering how big of a drop to flat can I get away with w/o damaging my crap too much?
This one was 40" to flat and I sucked it up pretty well with my arms/legs and fork. I still had about 10mm of fork travel to spare according to my zip-tie. My wheels are still true and I don't see any signs of stress anywhere.
I think the weak links could possibly be my pedal spindles Candy C's and rims 5.1d.
What's the consensus?
So I was out doing a little urban session and there's just not a whole lot of "fun terrain" around here. I found a progressive ledge to flat grass and was wondering how big of a drop to flat can I get away with w/o damaging my crap too much?
This one was 40" to flat and I sucked it up pretty well with my arms/legs and fork. I still had about 10mm of fork travel to spare according to my zip-tie. My wheels are still true and I don't see any signs of stress anywhere.
I think the weak links could possibly be my pedal spindles Candy C's and rims 5.1d.
What's the consensus?
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I've ridden off of loading docks (around 3-3.5 feet) with no issues, and that was with the dart. Well, I guess I did destroy my rear wheel (but that was trying a tail whip to flat), and I think that killed the rebound in my dart, but that was bound to happen. Drops to flat just arent that fun IMO.
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It is subjective. A skilled rider can do less damage then an unskilled rider. Also, going faster can be softer, as the impact is less harsh.
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Thinking about this from a (very limited, I must admit) physics angle, the velocity forward has no relation to the velocity down. Gravity is gravity, regadless of how fast you are travelling forward.
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That would be the case if the rider landed instantaneously...but the load is actually distributed over an area delineated in time from when the tires first touch until the rider finishes absorbing the impact. The faster the rider is going, the greater the area the load is spread over resulting in a lower peak load.
Definitely.
Definitely.
And let me just point out that, yes, I am a nerd.
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I have done 6 foot drops to flat at ~ 20 mph (on a DH bike) with very little compression - I've also done a 3 foot drop to flat and bottomed - almost no speed wheelie drop. However, I have done ~ 6-7 foot drop at ~ 10 mph (on a 22# ti had tail) with a perfect transition - with barely and compression - Spokanites know this drop as "Rushmore"
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I have to man up this year and hit Rushmore. No excuse. Now Girthmore on the other hand . . . that sucker looks big from any angle.
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Drops to flat are the best. The biggest I've ever hit is 22 feet.
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Still looking for Rushmore, scrub. In the meantime, here's a local boosting Girthmore. It is bigger than it looks in the pic and run-in is sketchy:
Rushmore vid:
https://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=20752517
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Pffft! I had to schedule a hip replacement.
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Looking for another go through the warranty process?
Please note that XC guys know nothing about drops...
Please note that XC guys know nothing about drops...
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We'll see, I guess. I really do hate drops to flat. There's just not much for drops to tranny in mah'hood.
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I realized I never answered your original question, Ed. (So what else is new? - - there were bad jokes to be made and off-topic photos to post).
I consider 4'-5' to flat to be the limit of abuse I want to heap on parts when I'm just messing around; and the 5-footer should have some speed so that you don't just drop like a rock. But that's just me.
I consider 4'-5' to flat to be the limit of abuse I want to heap on parts when I'm just messing around; and the 5-footer should have some speed so that you don't just drop like a rock. But that's just me.
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Actually...just the opposite. After much reading...I'm gaining confidence in the durability of this one. My wheelset doesn't come with a warranty though, so that's my concern. (that and the pedal spindles)
We'll see, I guess. I really do hate drops to flat. There's just not much for drops to tranny in mah'hood.
We'll see, I guess. I really do hate drops to flat. There's just not much for drops to tranny in mah'hood.