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Old 12-31-08, 12:41 PM   #1
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Carbon Scott Scale 30 vs alloy Scale 40 ?

Why should i spend much more for the Carbon ? or be happy with the Scale 40 ?

What is THE REAL benefit to buy Carbon over Alloy ? only few grams lighter and much more expensive ?

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Old 12-31-08, 01:10 PM   #2
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Ride quality, stiffness, power transfer.
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carbon tubes and rocks scare me....save your cash unless you are a serious racer
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Old 12-31-08, 02:57 PM   #5
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Ride quality,

how ?

explain please ?

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Please help me is carbon bike just for series racers or ?

is it just bling ,bling
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I don't think it's just for racers, as I'm not a racer and have a carbon hardtail.
If you have ever ridden a carbon road bike and compared the ride an aluminum road bike,
then you know the difference. Although with mountain tires it's not as evident and I wouldn't list it as a huge selling point.
I was just listing some answers to your initial question of why someone would choose a carbon frame over an aluminum frame.
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Thinking to buy Scale 35 over 40 ? worth it ?

or just save the money and buy scale 40 ?

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I have a scott scale 30 carbon but I only use it for racing. First off the geometry is made for racing. The carbon, I find, does make a difference it ride quality. Well at least good carbon. If you are not going to race it I would not get a carbon hardtail as alloy frame would be more durable out on the trail.

It does freak me out when I hear rocks bouncing off the carbon tubes. You don't get a "ding" sound like alloy but a thud like a plastic sound. My frame has held up and nowadays they have done wonders with carbon where GT is making carbon downhill bikes.

If you were just racing beginner or sport and getting a carbon bike would be at the upper end of your budget i would go with the alloy frame. I am lucky that i have several bikes so I can just use my carbon scott just for racing.
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This "OMG CARBON+ROCKS=FAILLZ" thing is starting to become bothersome. Rocks hitting an aluminum tube will do just as much damage as rocks hitting a carbon tube, which, to be honest isn't a lot of damage unless we're talking big rocks. If you're so concerned about downtube failure, buy a metal plate to cover it.


The supposed "benefits" of carbon over aluminum are
  • Weight
  • Ride Quality (Vibration Dampening, which is moot on a mountain bike)
  • Stiffness, which is supposed to help with power transfer efficiency. Debatable.
  • Stiffness, which is supposed to help with flex when turning.
  • Bling
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Carbon isn't necessarily lighter than an aluminum frame. The motobecane fly, in aluminum or Ti, is as light as most carbon frames in the same price range. The M5 specialized S-works stumpy HT frame was extremly light, as were some of the GF and Trek High end Aluminum frames
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