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    Specialized Hardrock, Marin Pioneer Trail or Norco Kokanee

    Just finished my bike perusing, and have narrowed it down to these 3. The 2 stores are closing til Feb after today, so I'd really appreciate some advice. The 3 are priced the same, except marin is around $100 cheaper.

    I'll be using the bike mostly for hilly road, and the occasional dirt trail...nothing insanely technical.

    Please let me know which you'd recommend.

    Thanks,
    Dan

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    With the usage that you have described, it wouldn't make much sense to get a mountain bike. Perhaps a cyclocross style bike is something along the lines of what you're looking for.

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    cyclocross

    I agree with you...cannot seem to find a cyclocross for 400-600 in Canada....any idea where I could look?

    Thanks,
    Dan

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    Vapor:


    Frame RMB Custom 6061 Aluminum
    Fork RockShox Dart 1
    Front Travel 100mm Preload
    Rear Shock N/A
    Rear Travel N/A
    Head Set FSA no TH-888
    Stem Alloy 31.8mm x 20 80-100-120mm
    Handlebar XC Alloy 30mm rise, 630mm
    Brakes Shimano BRM416 mechanical disc
    Brake Levers With shifter levers
    Shifters Shimano ST-EF50 EZ Fire 8spd
    Gearing (FR) Shimano Altus 31.8mm
    Gearing (RR) Shimano Alivio
    Cranks & Chainrings Shimano FC-M311 170-175mm 42/34/24T
    Bottom Bracket Shimano BB-UN26
    Pedals VP 990S steel cage
    Hubs (FR) Wheeltech Disc super sealed W/alloy QR
    Hubs (RR) Wheeltech Disc super sealed W/alloy QR
    Cassette Shimano HG-30-8 11-32T
    Chain Shimano HG40
    Spokes Stainless
    Rims WTB SX24 alloy dbl wall disc 26
    Tires (RR/FR) Kenda Nevegal 26
    Seat Post Alloy 27.2mm
    Saddle WTB Speed V Sport


    Hardrock:

    FRAME
    Specialized A1 Premium Aluminum, fully butted, formed TT, double ORE DT, externally relieved HT, reinforced disc mount, forged dropouts w/ replaceable 98954020 hanger
    REAR SHOCK
    FORK
    SR Suntour SF8-XCT-V2, 80mm, 1pc. alloy lower, 28mm Hi-Ten stanchions, 13-15": standard spring, all others: "stiff" spring, coil/mcu spring w/ preload adj., spring assisted seals, disc only
    HEADSET
    Specialized 1-1/8" threadless, loose ball
    STEM
    Specialized forged alloy, 15 degree rise
    HANDLEBARS
    Specialized Hi-Ten, 32mm rise, 640mm wide, 8 degree back sweep, 6 degree up, 1.6mm thick
    GRIPS
    Specialized Enduro, dual compound Kraton, no flange, 131mm
    FRONT BRAKE
    Alloy linear pull, 1pc. pad
    REAR BRAKE
    Alloy linear pull, 1pc. pad
    BRAKE LEVERS
    Shimano (integrated w/ shifter)
    FRONT DERAILLEUR
    Shimano C-050, 34.9mm clamp
    REAR DERAILLEUR
    Shimano Altus
    SHIFT LEVERS
    Shimano ST-EF50-7, 7-speed
    CASSETTE
    Shimano MF-TZ31, 7-speed, 14-34t Mega Range
    CHAIN
    KMC Z7 w/ reuseable Missing Link
    CRANKSET
    Shimano FCM-191, polished
    CHAINRINGS
    42 x 34 x 24t
    BOTTOM BRACKET
    FSA BB-7420, cartrdge bearings, 68mm x 122.5mm for 47.5mm chain line
    PEDALS
    Steel cage, composite body, 9/16"
    RIMS
    Alex Z-1000, 26", single wall, 32h
    FRONT HUB
    Specialized Hi Lo, forged alloy, double sealed, ground race, 32h
    REAR HUB
    Specialized forged alloy,double sealed, ground race, QR, 32h
    SPOKES
    1.8mm (15g) stainless w/ brass nipples
    FRONT TIRE
    Specialized Fast Trak LK Sport, 26x2.0", 60TPI, aramid bead
    REAR TIRE
    Specialized Fast Trak LK Sport, 26x2.0", 60TPI, aramid bead
    INNER TUBES
    Specialized schraeder valve
    SADDLE
    Specialized XC, Body Geometry, 143mm width, front and rear bumpers
    SEATPOST
    Specialized alloy two bolt, no offset, micro adjust, 30.9mm
    SEAT BINDER
    Specialized alloy w/ QR
    NOTES
    Chain stay protector, reflectors, clear coat, owners manual



    I'm not seeing a HR Comp Disc for '09...just a Sport Disc.
    Here's an '08:


    Frame Specialized A1 Premium aluminum
    Fork SR Suntour SF7-XCM, 100mm travel
    Rims/Wheels Specialized/Alex
    Hubs Specialized Hi Lo Disc
    Spokes 15-gauge stainless-steel
    Tires Specialized Resolution, 26 x 2.1
    Crankset SR Suntour
    Chainwheel 42/32/22
    Front Derailleur Shimano Altus
    Rear Derailleur Shimano Acera
    Rear Cogs Shimano HG-40, 8-speed: 11-32
    Shifters Shimano EF-50
    Handlebars Aluminum
    Tape/Grips Specialized Enduro, dual-density Kraton
    Stem Specialized, aluminum
    Brake Levers Shimano EF-50
    Brakes Avid BB-5, mechanical disc, 6-inch rotors
    Pedals Steel cage, composite body
    Saddle Specialized Aggro
    Seat Post Specialized, aluminum, micro-adjustable


    I was going to say go with the RH Comp Disc b/c you could upgrade to a decent disc brake system later, but when I checked the spec's on it...it's already got a decent system. (Avid BB5) I would personally recommend the Comp Disc b/c disc brakes are one of the greatest MTB innovations ever IMO. The rest of the build is fairly comparable on all three bikes.

    The most important thing is to ride them all and see which one fits best and feels best. Get the right size frame for your body type and riding style.

    I'd say you can't go wrong with any of them. They're all similarly built. One doesn't have much over the other except for the Comp Disc excellent entry level braking system.

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    I can't speak about the other two but I have a Hardrock Comp Disc 3 years ago and like it a lot. Because of it's price it's definitely not a flashy bike but it's very solid. And it's backed by a company with a good warranty.
    It's better to burn out than fade away...or slip out of your pedal and face plant on the side of the road!!!

    '06 Cannondale Prophet
    '08 Specialized S-Works Stumpjumper
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    if you buy a hardrock make sure you have at least an extra 50 bucks to buy a serviceable derailleur.


    quote from the shimano website:

    "the altus was originally designed to be a paperweight, after initial studies it was concluded that it could also be used to sparatically shift gears. after it went in production, bypassing quality control standards, the altus began preying on unsuspecting customers of entry level mountain bikes. "
    [2010] Specialized P3 - [09] Origin8 Scout 29er - [08] Specialized Epic Comp - [08] Specialized Allez - [06] - Specialized SX Trail II - (((In Pieces - '08 Jamis Parker -- '07 specialized Hardrock Sport -- 2005 KHS DJ200)))

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