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    I need a little help.

    James Dakota Elite, or Santa Cruz Chameleon? Leaning towards getting the Jamis just because I feel like its a better buy, but I am looking for a second opinion.

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    Santa Cruz. I like Santa Cruz. There, you've got an opinion

    Seriously, you're going to have to do better than that on your own, why do you even think the bikes are comparable. Why do you think one or the other might be better for you or your riding skills/style/area? Do you dress yourself?
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    Yes I dress myself. I like the Santa Cruz also, but I was looking at best bang for buck, and from my point of view the Jamis is a better buy. Now what I was thinking of doing was just getting the Santa Cruz frame and switching all of my current stuff over. Not that I can't buy stuff on my own, I just wanted a second opinion.

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    Jamis will almost always be better "bang for your buck"...depending on the type of bang you're seeking. Something they seem to frequently skimp on is hubs. If you can get a similarly built Chameleon for the same price...I'd go SC.

    What is the build of the Santa Cruz?
    What year is the Jamis?


    The Dakota Elite is a light/fast cross country bike:
    Specifications
    Frame
    Kinesis Superlight 7005 triple-butted aluminum main tubes, BB30 over-sized BB shell, carbon fiber monostay, over-sized seat tube, gusseted down tube, replaceable derailleur hanger

    Fork
    Fox 32FRL, air spring with lockout & external rebound damping adjustor, 32mm stanchions, 100mm travel

    Headset
    Zero-Stack internal cup threadless, 1 1/8

    Wheels
    WTB Laser Disc XC eyeletted rims, 32H, Shimano Deore M525 disc hubs, WTB 14g stainless steel spokes

    Tires
    Maxxis Ignitor, 26 x 2.1

    Derailleurs
    Shimano Deore XT Shadow rear,
    Deore XT 34.9mm top pull front

    Shiftlevers
    Shimano Deore XT, Rapidfire Plus-SL, 27-speed

    Chain
    Shimano HG73

    Cassette
    SRAM Powerglide 950, 9-speed, 11-32

    Crankset
    FSA Afterburner BB30, 44/32/22,
    170mm (15.5), 175mm (17-21)

    BB Set
    FSA BB30

    Pedals
    Crank Brothers Smarty clipless

    Brakeset
    Avid Juicy 5 hydraulic disc brakes with Avid Juicy levers

    Handlebar
    Ritchey Mountain Comp OS flat bar,
    31.8 O˚ x 5˚ sweep x 580mm

    Stem
    Ritchey Comp OS, 31.8 bar bore x 6˚ x 100mm (15),
    110mm (17 ) & 120mm (19-21)

    Grips
    WTB Trail, dual compound

    Seat Post
    Ritchey Comp OS, 350mm x 31.6 mm with 2 bolt design

    Saddle
    WTB Pure V Race with SL cover, chromoly rails

    Sizes
    15.5, 17, 19, 21

    Color
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    Weight
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    Senior Member Bighec's Avatar
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    I was looking at a new Santa Cruz with the XT setup, and a 32 Float, and I was also looking at the newer model Jamis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bighec View Post
    Yes I dress myself. I like the Santa Cruz also, but I was looking at best bang for buck, and from my point of view the Jamis is a better buy. Now what I was thinking of doing was just getting the Santa Cruz frame and switching all of my current stuff over. Not that I can't buy stuff on my own, I just wanted a second opinion.
    Just needling ya, sometimes I just read one too many "what should I buy" thread (having never asked anyone else what to get). The two bikes are totally different, though and would boil down to how you want to use the bike...like Chelboed points out the Dakota is a light xc bike, the Chameleon is more an "AM" kinda bike (but more versatile than the Dakota in a few ways). You sure you want to do the BB30 thing with the Dakota?
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    I ended up getting the Santa Cruz frame. Just bought it, should be here in about two weeks. Gonna swap everything from my current bike over.

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