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Old 07-02-04, 09:50 PM   #1
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No love from man-made

As some of you know I love (d) man made obstacles. Skinnies, teeters etc...this year I hate them. I can't get any love from them. Crashing, breaking stuff..lots of fun. Like today, one of my favorite parts of River Runs through it (shortest section and considered the easiest) and I crash once, breaking my deraileur. I rig it up with a zip tie so it stays in 3rd gear which would allow me to finish the trail. (I am 10min into about a 1hour trail) 5min more and I do almost the exact same thing ripping the deraileur clean off my bike (looks like I am upgrading to sram now as I promised I would next time I broke my deraileur)

So now I am stuck on a trail with no deraileur. Pissed off at the wood and pissed off at myself for sucking so bad at manmade stuff. I am not sure what it is but the only thing I can imagine is I am taking the stuff toooo fast. Doing dh lately has really made me much faster on the trails and a lot more ballsy in the rough stuff. This works on trails but I don't think it works on skinnies. In any case now both bikes are busted and I am steaming....arg

Just needed to rant.
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I hear you man. I am HORRBILE at any of the man made stuff that I ride. I haven't even attempted anything higher that 4ft. Because I'm afraid i'm gonna fall and injury myself. I guess its just my balance. I'll have to work on that.
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Old 07-02-04, 11:56 PM   #3
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Arg..the problem is this is a trail I used to be able to clear 80 to 90% of...dang..
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SLOW DOWN! I ride stuff faster too because of DH. Don't go to slow but don't go full speed. Althought who am I to tell you. Your the guy who lives in BC and rides way more then I do. Just giving some advice!
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Yeah...I am sure I was just going to fast...came in really hot...oh well..buy some replacement parts and hit the trail again. I have been avoiding skinnies due to soooo many of my friends getting injured on them this past year.
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Thats the LAST thing I want. I just started getting serious last year in the late fall. Then the winters up here in NH make it very hard to ride. So in the spring I bought my first more expensive bike ($1,500+) and the last thing I want is to get injured and not be able to ride.
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yeah...but its a tossup...ride hard and risk injury or don't and go ride xc ...its a balance for sure. I just love skinnies. So much skill and mental focus. Nothing else like in mtb imo.
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yeah...but its a tossup...ride hard and risk injury or don't and go ride xc ...its a balance for sure. I just love skinnies. So much skill and mental focus. Nothing else like in mtb imo.
I'd disagree with that last part. I think find good lines in DH racing uses just as much skill and mental focus.
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hmmmm....well we will have to agree to disagree...the focus required on a long bending skinny with teeters and ups and downs require more focus imo. Dh requires more 'flow' and speed....when I ride River by the end I have a headache cause I have to stay so focused.

The skill part I can let go of as they are both skillful parts of the sport.
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Yeah I see what you mean. I haven't been riding many skinnies lately so I might not know as much as you do.
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SLOW DOWN

But who am I to say that, youre a much better rider than me. I think if you slowed down a little more you would have more time to react.

A reccomendation : SRAM on ebay
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I don't know if I am better. But yeah I think this is my chance to try sram on a full time basis. I have done a lot of testing, but I do abuse my bikes. Gotta give the XT credit. Took a lot of hits directly to it. Time to see if Sram can hold up

I woiuld actually consider getting XT again but can't find anything but rapid rise...oh well.
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I don't know if I am better. But yeah I think this is my chance to try sram on a full time basis. I have done a lot of testing, but I do abuse my bikes. Gotta give the XT credit. Took a lot of hits directly to it. Time to see if Sram can hold up

I woiuld actually consider getting XT again but can't find anything but rapid rise...oh well.
On my jumping bike I have cheap SRAM because I can't afford to constantly break rapidfire levers when I fall (notice I didn't say IF ) If I lived in BC I might be a better skinny rider.

Oh yea, will you adopt me ? I will teach you how to ski if you teach me how to bike
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Hahaha...sorry I am not up for having a kid of my own. I have to keep telling my gf that too ...

I do like the price of Sram x.7 pretty cheap stuff. Nice and short too...
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Skinnies are easy to make. It just take practice. I haven't done one since the fall so I was way out of practice. It would take much to build your own fun area
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Hahaha...sorry I am not up for having a kid of my own. I have to keep telling my gf that too ...

I do like the price of Sram x.7 pretty cheap stuff. Nice and short too...

Try Grip Shift you may fall in love with it I still wont use it on my xc bike, but it's hard to beat for freeride purposes.
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do not buy SRAM for the ability to withstand direct hits.it is more brittle for lack of a better term and will snap much easier than Shimono.I prefer Sram until I get a stick hung up and snap another derailler then I (for a brief moment till the new stuff arrives) wish I had transfered my Deore stuff to my new frame.(those have taken some nasty hits and still do very well).
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I actually don't think it will be stronger. I am pretty sure I won't. But I have issues with shifting with shimano on the dually. I can get the shifting perfect, but after 10 or 20 minutes of riding it is always off. Xt, Lx, deore. Tuned by a pro or me, it just sucks. If sram doesn't fit that then I might switch back. But I would liek to try sram for a prolonged period.

The hit that broke my deraileur, NO deraileur could hold up to. I am definately not claiming it is a fragility problem.
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shimono is more adjustment friendly also.I am not trying to say dont get Sram,I prefer it due to its quickness of shift,smoothness of shift,price,and it just feels more me when I shift.I can shift with my hands still on my ergo grips,where as I could not with my RFs.I was just saying it is not as durable as some others.it takes less to break than my others did.Ive used 5.0,7.0&9.0 and they all did about the same.I found 7.0 for $20 at a LBS so thats what I use now.I think you will like the feel just lettin ya know the brittle aspect of it
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Why dont you upgrade your hub and deraileur to saint, no more problems end of story.
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Rapid rise sucks. Cost...and no...it doesn't solve the problem. I know lots of riders with saint and what I did would have done the same thing. Not sure why people think moving the deraileur in (towards the wheel) is gonna fix much. And the multi pivot thing would have just been broken too. The only thing I love about saint is the quality of brakes and the crank/bb setup (thing of beauty)

The ONLY way to solve the problem I had above is to buy an internally geard hub.

So no...saint is definately NOT the end of storey
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Your bike is "Man Made" isn't it?

PS. I'm a happily committed Father of 3.... I always make time for myself too, just in case any of you ever decide to follow some of the examples about becoming a Dad & not having time to ride anymore.... That's just a lame excuse.

BTW. This post isn't directed to anyone specific, I just wanted to shoot down the lame excuse about having to give up life just because someone becomes a father or mother. I fall outta my chair laughing when I see someone is selling stuff because they've suddenly become a new Dad or Mom. Believe it or not, the world don't rotate around us or our kid's. It just rotates & you gotta try to hold on....

If you don't make time for yourself, then you're on a downward spiral my friends....

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Huh...where the heck did that come from....so I don't want kids. thats my preference...

and yeah my bike is manmade...dude you have a serious pickle stuck somewhere, you sound like either a 12 year old or a crotchedy old man, can never figure out which.
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Maelstrom,

Remember back in January (I think) I switched over to SRAM, I have yet to break a drivetrain component (knocks on wood and rubs head to ward off bad karma), or having to readjust all the time. I too was getting tired of the bad shifting and broken parts.



I'm running the X-9 stuff; medium cage rear derailleur, powerglide rear cassette, PC-99 chain, with a twist shift and absolutely love it.
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I really have to disagree with you that saint wouldnt of helped. I have seen a saint rear derailleur being feeble grinded on a concrete ledge and still shifting afterwards. If thats not impressive i dont know what is.
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