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    Is mountain biking on the decline this decade?

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    I wouldn't say it's in a decline, just have to remember mtbing is still the newest discipline of cycling. It's just having it's growing pains just like the other disciplines did when they were fairly new.

    It's also a given that on a cycling forum that caters to many different types of cycling the majority of the posts will be from road, ss/fg, commuting forum since there are alot more people that stick to the roads than go ride in the woods.

    Activity wise here, it's a bit more active during the late fall/winter/early spring here.
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    It takes about a day for an answer to come around here but the info that is given is normally top notch. If you are wanting more information or just maybe more views I also frequent http://forums.mtbr.com/ Sorry I can't be more help I am just now getting into the more tech side of things and am still learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddac View Post

    Recently, I purchased a 10 year old M2 Stumpy hardtail and need help with restoring it. A lightbulb lit up and BF popped in my head. "The geeks on BF would have answers to everything. I just need to use the search function" I thought to myself.

    Well, that didn't work. Couldn't find useful/relevant info.
    What is it exactly that you needed help on?
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    There is no correlation between the activity in this forum and actual mountain biking in the real world.

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    All 4 bolt patterns except for one generation of xtr is 104mm.
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    Check out an issue of Decline Magazine or any of the other MTB magazines and you will see that it's alive and well. There are so many niches in MTB'ing that have spawned, that I don't think you really can clump it into one label anymore - many are very different like XC or Cyclocross vs. DJ or freeride. Have you checked out the "Roam" videos? Incredible riding.

    Also, the components have gotten SO good, I feel in all aspects of bicycles that we are truly in the Golden Age, and MTB'ing has soaked up all that glory in a big way.

    I've noticed incredible road riding gains since I got back on the dirt with some serious intent, and then my BMX skills totally being used in tight single-track stuff. It's kinda like going off-road motorcycle riding and the gains you get when motorcycle road racing: things like traction that you have to contend with on a MTB end up being child's play when on the pavement.

    Any roadie who doesn't take MTB'ing seriously is really missing out - especially when unfavorable road riding conditions start coming into play in the winter. I say put away that stupid indoor trainer and bust out the knobbies!

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    What you need is what is called singletrack or perhaps fire trails. Good start for beginning in dirt.

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    It's just because we're to busy riding and racing to be online all day
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    Mountain biking has been in a state of decline ever since riders discovered vehicle shuttles and lift-assisted descents.
    Mountain bikes will all eventually be little more than non-motorized MX machines.
    I blame Red Bull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoine View Post
    There is no correlation between the activity in this forum and actual mountain biking in the real world.
    yep.

    This subforum is pretty much done. I see more & more people on mountain bikes all the time.

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    ^^ Going to wait for Dminors respons on this one..
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    OP:

    MTB technology is progressing at such an alarming rate...your M2 Stumpy has one foot in the grave. Compared to today's Stumpy...the geo is uncomfortable, suspension archaic, and shifting is spotty.

    There are a scant number of hold-outs who deliberately buck the transition of modern technology who would froth at the mouth in regards to your few threads...but there are plenty of people out there on the trail mountain biking. If people don't respond right away...give it time. They may just be holding back the "lol's" at your wanting to heat up and straighten your rusty bent to ****e middle ring.

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    My bad...you wanna save some money...skip the Brooks B17. You can get a WTB RocketV at Jenson these days on closeout for $20. Good comfy saddle. You mentioned that the fork may be shot. That thing is also screaming for a Kona P2 fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddac View Post

    I have to admit that I've never ventured out to this part of the forums before. I usually read the road/SSFG/commuting forums as I do all three.
    Maybe you should spend a bit more time in the MTB forums..

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    I'm sorry to say, but this section of the forums is pretty weaksauce! Do you guys know of another forum out there that would have a larger mountain biking population?
    Then you come in and start dissing the forums that you don't even take part in...

    Quote Originally Posted by ddac View Post
    So my question is.....why is mountain biking seeing a decline?
    Then make an assumption that MTB is in a decline, and it is not as you have seen by the response to this post. Get out and learn a bit more about what is happening in the MTB community..

    Quote Originally Posted by ddac View Post
    There's a reason why I purchased a 10 year old bike. I don't have $$$ for a newer bike. There's a reason why I don't want to buy new chainrings.....it has something to do with $$$ (or lack thereof). You can LOL all you want. But being down & out financially doesn't mean one shouldn't be able to ride a bike. I'm confident I'll bounce back. But right now, times are hard for my family & I in this economy.

    I don't know about you, but when I see someone less fortunate than I am, I don't have the urge to point & "LOL" at them. I'm thankful for what I have and I'm glad someone less fortunate is able to work with what he has.

    So...unless you're going to offer to buy me an crankset with your hard earned cash, I wouldn't worry too much with what a guy on the internet does with his bent chainring. Maybe there are higher priorities in his life than spending money to get his mountain bike to operate in tip top condition.

    When you're a little worried about a roof over your head & feeding small mouths, bending back a chainring to see if it'll work before spending $$$ on a new one is a pretty viable option IMO.

    Lighten up....

    We all make choices, if you spent a bit more time in the MTB forums you may have learned something, and not got your self into a MTB that needed a butt load of work. Heck you may have been able to save some money if you came in here asking the right questions. Any way good luck with you's and yours roof and other life challenges.

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    Nope...I don't recall what they were. I just remember how they felt when I was riding them. Sorry.

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    Ya, my friend has an olde Stumpjumper M2, a year or two older than the OP's. He's always gotten pissed cuz my Mongoose rides so much better, but was a couple hundred dollars cheaper.

    I don't think MTB is in a decline. Seems to me like it plateaued several years ago and I figure it will stay steady as we go forward. Maybe the plateau seemed like a decline compared to road bikes becoming popular again due to the Lance effect. Kinda like in the early 90s when you couldn't give away a road bike, but MTBs flew out the door. When I saw a road bike in Target a couple years ago, I just about spit Starbucks all over the place.

    As for subforum views, most SS/fixed riders type WAY more than they ride, it's a fact.
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    Go to mtbr.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddac View Post

    So that means mtn bikers aren't as internet savvy or as social as hipsters? Would that be a fair statement?
    I would not go a far as saying the mountain bikers are not internet savvy, come on we are using it to have this conversation as I type.

    As for the social/hptsters thing, I have found that mountain biking is built up from people of all walks of life, and styles of social behaviors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddac View Post
    What were you riding in the 90s that made you dislike the Stumpjumper's geometry?
    DBR, 'Goose, Rockhopper, Stumpy, GT LTS, Super V, Level Betty, Trek "Why bikes"...I didn't dislike them back then...for sure. I just can't fathom riding one compared to today's entry level tank even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commodus View Post
    Go to mtbr.com.
    Awesome first post! Welcome to Bike Forums!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddac View Post
    So that means mtn bikers aren't as internet savvy or as social as hipsters? Would that be a fair statement?

    Do you know what Google is?


    I typed in "Manitou SX manual" and the very first hit was the .pdf service manual for your fork.

    http://spoke-n-word-cycles.com/Techn...e%20Manual.pdf

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    With respect to some of the other posters in this thread, I disagree that mountain bike geometry and frame construction has radically changed in the last decade. Most of those changes have come in the area of all-mountain and FS bikes, which is not relevant to a discussion regarding an old Stumpy.

    The M2 was specced very very well. It is a much better bike than anything you can buy new under four figures, with the possible exception of the fork. Regardless, the fork is completely adequate.

    If this is your first mtb, I think it's safe to say it is a much better bike than you are a rider. I say this not to offend you, simply to put your mind at ease - just fix it and ride it.

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    Buying an old Stumpy instead of a new or newer Hardrock was probably a good move. The comment about an M2 being better than anything new under 4 figures is just plain incorrect. As an example, the new Rockhopper is an M4 and under four figures. (Duh!)
    Obtaining info on BF to restore an old bike is no problem. The problem is, your bike is not old enough. The C&V forum will help anyone restoring an old bike, but an M2 is just not considered old. Maybe a steel Stumpy might make it.
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    It's always nice to have that handy.
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