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    Another Judy XC question!

    OK, I pulled my (96)Scott Vertigo LSD off the hanger on Saturday, washed, tuned and rode around the driveway. I was wondering why it seemed like the steering was so quick, when i noticed that the rubber covers were compressed. The fork is at full compression, and I'll assume the MCU's are toast. I've done the research here and on other sites and know that the overwhelming consensus is to dump the Judy and get some new technology. But, as I'm sure you've guessed, I'm not sold on the that option. The low end forks I've researched are heavy (5+ pounds) and the Judy is listed at under 4#. I'm going to open her up this week and hope it's just the mcu's and am considering buying a set of Kronos springs off ebay. I can't really find any reviews or info (I know, that should be an indicator) and am wondering if anyone is familiar? My plans for downhilling or rocketing threw stoney/rocky singletrack are low right now. If they pick up, I'll be looking at a new bike in the future, but I enjoyed this rig a lot in the past, and don't see my needs or wants to be much more right now. So that's the scam! $30 for Kronos springs to revive my '96 Judy XC or some other $30 fix????? Thanks!

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    After a quick workout at lunch time, I decided to check out the MCU's in the Judy. Toast! I removed the fork (hope I got all the ball bearings from the headset) and am going to disassemble, clean and see if the damper cartridge is ok. Any info on the Kronos coils would be great!!!!

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    There is a company offering new replacement elastomers for your fork and others. They're kind of pricey though.

    http://suspensionforkparts.net/eshop...d&productId=28
    Last edited by Svr; 08-17-09 at 04:10 PM.

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    Thanks for the link! I guess the question is to spend an extra $15 for elastomers or save the money and go with coil springs. Pro's, con's? I pulled the damping cartridge and it's working and in good shape, so it's just a matter of cleaning the tubes and getting new springs.

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    Just an update on this "HOT" thread! Anyway, I ordered the Kronos springs from ebay. I installed them on Saturday. I disassembled, cleaned, and regreased. It was actually pretty easy, although I did download the manual for some extra help. I haven't had a chance to test it out yet, although it feels very responsive on the bike. I screwed up and potentially ruined the rear shock on the Scott trying to clean it. I removed it from the bike, and then removed the spring since the inner threads were dirty. While trying to unthread the preload adjuster, it seized about 3/4 of the way down the body. I ended up having to cut it off. I'm in the process of checking to see if I can get the threads chased and a new adjuster made. (One of the companies I work for is a tooling manufacturer) Anyway, hoping it goes smooth. I did find a potential replacement on ebay and have emailed Cane Creek to see if they can help, but I really didn't want to invest a lot of money in the bike. (as opposed to buying a brand spanking new one!) That's it!

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    Another update!!!!!!!

    Not only did I order a NOS Fox Vanilla R for the Scott (which fit perfect after having one pair of bushings machined to the right size) from ebay, I also ordered a brand spankin' new 29er which should be here tomorrow! My wife and kids rode some real mt bike trails, technical single track, rocks roots, trees, log crossings, etc, on Sunday. Wife wrecked and hurt her knee on a small log crossing, hopefully she'll be good for this weekend. The kids did incredibly for their first time in the woods, especially both of them making a few log crossings, and we all had a blast. Anyway, it all started coming back and I really enjoyed riding the C-dale/Amp3. I guess I'm a clydesdale as I'm 5'11" and around 205#, but climbing with the C-dale is awesome and I love that it's around 24#. I put the shock back on the Scott with the newly rebuilt Judy and WOW. I know it's around 27#, but it felt good. I was riding over things just because I could. Now, I'm wondering if I'm going to have the same reaction when I get on the new 29er with a new technology RS Tora 318 air. It should be interesting, but aside from it's light weight and ability to climb, the C-dale may be staying back at the ranch for a while. OCD and hobby's are a bad mix. I've been helping the economy though. In the past 3 weeks I've bought a rear shock, springs for the Judy, 2 new helmets, 3 new bikes (2 for the kids, 1 for me), 2 new camelbaks and 1 bladder, and misc supplies. Can't wait for the long weekend.

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    Thanks for helping out the economy!

    Now, if more of you folks would start building a new house or remodeling, it would help all of us carpenters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenhill3 View Post
    Thanks for helping out the economy!

    Now, if more of you folks would start building a new house or remodeling, it would help all of us carpenters.

    Amen to that Brother! I have a construction company and the remodeling is keeping us going, but the new homes are beyond dead. I've been sitting on a spec (2800 sq ft in an exclusive neighborhood) for 2.5 years and just dropped the price another $30k!

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    Pic's of the revived Scott







    The cool thing is that now the front and rear shocks are actually sprung correctly for my weight. I still need to mess with the sag and damping, but I'm looking forward to a few rides with it.

    I think this will be the chosen rig for the weekend, depending on how my build goes on the new 29er.

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    I still ride 96 Judy's with elastomers and they are fine for my XC riding. If I want aggressive then I get the bike out with the Boxers (See attachment)

    I strip and rebuild the Judy's every year and I have the blue elastomers in and set as firm as possible.When I reassemble I use Rockshox grease on the elastomers and plenty of it. Keeps them moving for another year but not much longer.

    And I haven't found another fork I like as much as the Elastomer Judy's that I can afford. I would prefer rigid but have to admit that the body does need a bit of comfort.
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