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Old 09-11-09, 10:23 PM   #1
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Is this alot of climbing or not?

I really don't know b/c I don't do the whole GPS or Cyclocomputer geek crap...but my friend mapped out this climb that I do on my singlespeed...it came out to about 1500 vertical feet in 45-50minutes or so. 2:1 was perfect for it...just the right amt. of pain

It's like 250 feet of vert...then we turn around and go straight back down and do it again...6 times in a row.

Anyhoo...is this average for you XC geeks? Less? More? Weak sauce?
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That's a fair bit of climbing, at least from my experience.

Toughest race I've done, climbing wise, was the Tour de Tykes in Danville, PA. 3500 feet of climbing in 13 miles. I finished 8th in my class, and it still took me 2 hours and 3 minutes.

Last week, I did a race that was 2500 feet of climbing over 22 miles, finished in 2:15 in the 6th position.

I have a local ride that I do here in State College, roughly 1200 feet of climbing to the top, I can do it in somewhere around 35-40 minutes or so.

However... I have gears. So kudos to you, my man. I'm slowly working my way to building up a singlespeed. Switching to a 1x9 setup first, though.

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philadelphia to wilmington. now THAT's a lot of climbing. not a trip i'll repeat any time soon.
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I'm not sure ddac...I think it's about 1/2mi climb (accord. to G-maps) so it's 1500ft over 3mi round trip...it's pretty straight up and down. It takes 4-5 minutes to climb, bomb down...do it again 6x.

I must have the time screwed up b/c we timed each climb at 4-5 minutes...so I guess it's about 35-40 min unless we decide to rest betw climbs.

I guess it took 45-50min the first time we did it...we rested in between climbs numver 3 and 5.

The last time I did it, I only rested on the DH back to the beginning. (this was when I was strong in July...I've gotten pretty slothy lately)
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That would be around 10% average grade so I consider that a steep grade. The time climbing isn't all that long. Riding like that will make you strong.
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Yeah...it's short...but long for KS...our climbs are mainly "punchy".
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I just got an email from the dude with the GPS...he said he was clocking the "walking path" which doesn't go all the way to the bottom. He said the road we were climbing was more...prob. close to 300ft.

I dunno...I'm getting tired of all this XC jabber

I wonder how fast I can do 6 shuttle runs on it
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Which route did you take? Cue sheet? I'm thinking about a NYC to Baltimore ride (unsupported). I mapped my way from NYC to Philly. But I'm a little afraid of sleeping on the streets in Philly with my bike.

Is DE a relatively safe place? I plan on riding 40 - 50 miles a day and spend the rest of the day resting or sleeping somewhere off the road.
DO NOT, repeat DO NOT sleep on the streets of philly with your bike.
rent some manner of hotel or hostel and take the bike in with you. insist on taking it in with you.

past wilmington and especially past dover delaware gets pretty flat and the shoulder goes to an extended shoulder (car width or wider) and it's ALL Yours as a cyclist. suffolk county has invested a lot in its bicycle facilities and it shows. on arrival in wilmington or dover go to a DART service desk or the DART administration building (in dover) and ask for bike maps. they're beautiful and very handy.

for my ride from philly to wilmington i had my nuvi 205 set to bike mode. apart from putting me onto the george c platt bridge (nerve-wracking to say the least -- take the passyunk bridge instead) it gave excellent directions.

so it went something like delaware ave down to moyamensing to 76w (which has a bike lane!) to the george c platt to industrial hwy and 291w (219?) past the airport (which Also has a bike lane!) to chester pa, essington, the sunoco plant, marcus hook, wilmington.

the major ascents/descents start at bellevue state park.

as for getting from delaware to baltimore... you're pretty much stuck taking a ferry at some point. whether it's from ocean city to maryland or across the chesapeake.
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Just curious.....1,500ft of vertical climb over what distance?
aprox 3600 ft of distance.( 6x up the hill at 900 feet total distance per trip) Part of this climb is 14 percent grade.
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aprox 3600 ft of distance.( 6x up the hill at 900 feet total distance per trip) Part of this climb is 14 percent grade.
Is this from the RR traxx or from where it just starts to get steep?
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Is this from the RR traxx or from where it just starts to get steep?
From the RR, can't be more than 300 yards horizontal travel to the top of the hill? 150 yards to the beaver pond, another 50 to the steepest part and 100 to the top?
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I just got an email from the dude with the GPS.


I'll map it sometime this week - from the railroad tracks to the top of the hill - vertical rise and distance.
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Its a pretty damn good climb, good luck with that one!
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I'm a pretty good climber and consider 1500' a decent workout. My favorite rides tend to be long road climbs followed by long singletrack descents, and fortunately there are lots of those in the Pacific Northwest.
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I'm a pretty good climber and consider 1500' a decent workout. My favorite rides tend to be long road climbs followed by long singletrack descents, and fortunately there are lots of those in the Pacific Northwest.
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I know of what you speak!

One of my favorites is a 7mi road climb with a sweet 14mi descent payoff.
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I know of what you speak!

One of my favorites is a 7mi road climb with a sweet 14mi descent payoff.
This is the "real" MTB'ing that I miss out on.
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That's a decent amount. Yesterdays ride was 3200ft of climbing for me, over 28 miles. I did it in 32/19 on my 29er (so obviously I was faster than all 26" wheeled bikes on the trail).
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This is the "real" MTB'ing that I miss out on.
Dude, I know you're doing the best ya can with what ya gots in ol' Kansas.

UP-DOWN-UP-DOWN-UP-DOWN-UP-DOWN-UP-DOWN-UP-DOWN.........
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my favorite ride is about 1000 ft of climbing in 3.4 miles and takes me about 20 minutes even. sometimes i do it 5 times in a row. i like climbing
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Finished my 3rd Cascade Creampuff in July. 18K feet of climbing over 100 miles. I would guess that 80% of the climbing was done on fire roads or double track and 20% single track - the oppisite for the decents.

My 3X a week ride is about 30 miles (18 road - the rest dirt) and about 3.5K vert.
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Finished my 3rd Cascade Creampuff in July. 18K feet of climbing over 100 miles. I would guess that 80% of the climbing was done on fire roads or double track and 20% single track - the oppisite for the decents.
I rode the alpine trail this summer.. awesome trail.. but thank god we shuttled it. Anyone who enjoys climbing fire roads is sick in the head in my opinion.

congrats on finishing that..
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The typical route I ride in the Santa Monica Mountains involves roughly 3000 feet of climbing spread over 30 miles of up and down. Most of that comes in getting up to around 1500-2000 feet MSL, and the rest from up and down following the ridges. It works out well; I get some nice breaks drifting downgrade, some easy middle-ring climbs, and some bearcats that require granny and sweat. My choice of singletrack or fire road.
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One of my favorites is a 7mi road climb with a sweet 14mi descent payoff.
Is that Devil's Gulch?
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Is that Devil's Gulch?
Actually, no. The one I referenced was a ride out of Porter Creek Camp here in Capital Forest (my home riding grounds).

Doug, I'm gonna wild guess that maybe you've done moto out at what was orig. called 'Straddle Line' ORV park out next to the Forest?

HA,ha. Funny you should mention Devil's Gulch. That is my next Central Washington ride destination, I think we'll be there in about 2 weeks. We like going out to the Lake Chelan area a couple times a year. I rode Devil's Backbone/Pot Peak (not the epic version) last Sept., (great adventurous ride anyway and the story is worth a thread here). This year will certainly mean doing Devil's Gulch- What's the skinny on DG, conditions, etc. ?

I absolutely love riding anywhere east of the Cascade Mountains, hell, ANYWHERE drier! Central Wash. is great country.

Last September's ride:

Devil's Backbone/Pot Peak

Heading up the 'backbone', with high point 7000' Pot Peak in the distance.





View from backside of 'backbone':





Somewhere in the hollow between Devil's Backbone and Pot Peak:







Stop on Pot Peak to prepare for takeoff. 10 miles and 5000' down to Ramona Camp. Yea, baby!

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