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    Motobecane Fantom Elite DS or Ironhorse Hollowpoint Sport?

    I'm getting ready to buy my first full-suspension MTB and I can't decide between a Motobecane Fantom Elite DS or Ironhorse Hollowpoint Sport. Help a brother out and tell me which one of these two I should go with and why. I'm 6'2" with a 33" inseam and I'm a crappy rider. I ride XC only, do a race now and then, but it's all just for fun. Your input would be greatly appreciated. I've pasted some stats below.

    Bike / Size / Top Tube / Chainstay / Wheelbase / Seat Tube / Head Tube
    Ironhorse / 21 / 24.6 / 16.9 / 43.3 / 71.4 / 71
    Motobecane / 20 / 23.5 / 16.5 / 43.5 / 73 / 71.5

    Fantom Elite
    Frame TripleActive 4B, 3"/4"/5" Travel - Four Bar Rocker Arm. Gussetted SL 7005 Aluminum (Disc Brake Equipped) SuperSmooth Sealed Cartridge Bearings at critical pivots
    Fork Front: RockShox Psylo XC with Uturn Travel Adjustment (80-125mm)
    Shock Rear: RockShox BAR - 3"/4"/5" Travel Adjustable Rebound Air
    Crankset Truvativ IsoFlow 22/32/44T*
    Bottom Bracket Sealed Cartridge
    Pedals M-Wings Systeme clipless/platform dual purpose
    Front Derailleur Shimano Deore LX
    Rear Derailleur Shimano XT
    Shifters Shimano Deore LX Rapid Fire 27 speed Pods
    Cassette/Freewheel Shimano cassette 9 speed 12-34T
    Chain KMC-Z9000 9Spd
    Hubs WTB SpeedDisc Sealed Bearings
    Spokes WTB Stainless steel
    Rims WTB SpeedDisc Black Anodized
    Tires WTB Velociraptor 2.1
    Brakes ProMax PowerDisc X9Adjustable
    Brake Levers ProMax Power Aluminum
    Headset Ritchey Scuzzy Logic Sealed Bearing Threadless
    Handlebar Ritchey Rizer Butted Aluminum (Severe Conditions)
    Stem Ritchey Comp
    Tape/Grip WTB
    Saddle WTB Speed5
    Seat Post Ritchey Comp Black Anodized
    Seat Post Clamp Superlight Aluminum
    Sizes 16", 18", 20"
    Colors GlossLiquidBlack

    Hollowpoint Sport
    Frame Frame: CUSTOM BUTTED 7005 ALUMINUM DUAL SUSPENSION, ZERO-STACK HEADSET, 3.75"/4.5" TRAVEL, DW LINK, REPLACEABLE DROPOUT, INTL DISC BRAKE MOUNT
    Fork Fork: ROCK SHOX DUKE XC AIR 100MM TRAVEL
    Shock Rear Shock: MANITOU QR AIR, 6.5x1.5"
    Crankset Crank: TRUVATIV FIREX SX
    Bottom Bracket Bottom Bracket: TRUVATIV ISIS SL
    Pedals Pedal: SHIMANO PD-M520L CLIPLESS, CROMO AXLE
    Front Derailleur Front Derailleur: SHIMANO DEORE
    Rear Derailleur Rear Derailleur: SHIMANO DEORE XT
    Shifters Shifter: SHIMANO DEORE
    Cassette/Freewheel Freewheel: SRAM PG-950, 11/32T, 9 SPEED
    Chain Chain: HG73
    Hubs Front Hub: ALLOY, SEALED BEARING, 32H
    Spokes Spoke: DB 14/15G FORGED BLACK STAINLESS
    Rims Rim: MAVIC X223 DISC
    Tires Tires: MAXXIS HANSVENTURE, 26x2.35, KEVLAR BEAD, DUAL COMPOUND, 127TPI
    Brakes Brakes: HAYES HYRDAULIC HFX 9
    Brake Levers Brake Lever: AVID SPEED DIAL 7
    Headset Headset: FSA, THREADLESS
    Handlebar Handlebar: TRUVATIV XR-XC
    Stem Stem: TRUVATIV 5 DEGREE
    Tape/Grip
    Saddle Seat: WTB ROCKET V CARBONARA W/CROMO RAIL
    Seat Post Seat Post: ALLOY MICRO ADJUST, 27.0MM
    Seat Post Clamp
    Sizes Size: MENS:15",17",19",21"
    Colors Color: ELECTRIC BLUE

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    Let me see here, hard decision....

    Definately the Iron Horse HollowPoint.
    Strike like an eagle and sacrifice the dove.
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    No question....Hollowpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom
    No question....Hollowpoint.
    Thanks for the input guys! It looks like Ironhorse - 2, Motobecane - 0! If you don't mind me asking, could you give me a little input as to why the Hollowpoint is the clear choice? Is it the Frame Quality? Suspension Design? Geometry? Components?

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    Frame quality is superior, better overall components, and you have a great suspension design with the DW link.
    Strike like an eagle and sacrifice the dove.
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    i say hollowpoint as well. iron horse makes some quality bikes for really cheap. they're always spec'd well too.
    current ride: 2003 norco vps fluid 3.0 (custom build).



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    Quote Originally Posted by bacolmm
    Thanks for the input guys! It looks like Ironhorse - 2, Motobecane - 0! If you don't mind me asking, could you give me a little input as to why the Hollowpoint is the clear choice? Is it the Frame Quality? Suspension Design? Geometry? Components?
    ironhorse frames are generally tough as nailsand it has a splined bottom bracket(bb) which is an indication of quality in the freeride world. if you are going to be doing any freeride/urban assault/ or dh, I advise saving youself a lot of headaches with your chain falling off and get a rock ring(bashgaurd) to replace your big ring and ideally getting an inner ring to replace the little ring so there is no front derailleur.your drivetrain will be set up almost the best you can get it and this option doesn't have to cost a whole lot. good luck, bro and happy trails!!!

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    Thanks for all the info! I really appreciate it! It looks like Ironhorse = 5, Motobecane = 0. I was really leaning toward the Moto, but now I'm thinking the Horse is the way to go. If anyone has a different opinion let me know (or even if you have the same opinion). I'm probably going to make the purchase in the next couple days...

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