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Old 11-27-09, 11:50 AM   #1
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Lights! Will welcome all advice.

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I'm new to this site as of this morning. Thanks in advance for your help. I've read all Threads about MTB Night Lights in this forum and am now more confused than ever. I am a simple guy looking for a simple answer ie. I don't want to build, invent, or jury rig a light, I just want to buy the right one. I am looking for the brightest light I can find for under $400.00. I need at least 3 hours of light, compact rechargable battery, preferably waterproof. Can you refer me to the website and product name? Also, if you have a referral for where I can find reasonably priced jerseys and biking clothes on line, please forward that URL as well. Really appreciate you input! Ronnie K.
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I'm new to this site as of this morning. Thanks in advance for your help. I've read all Threads about MTB Night Lights in this forum and am now more confused than ever. I am a simple guy looking for a simple answer ie. I don't want to build, invent, or jury rig a light, I just want to buy the right one. I am looking for the brightest light I can find for under $400.00. I need at least 3 hours of light, compact rechargable battery, preferably waterproof. Can you refer me to the website and product name? Also, if you have a referral for where I can find reasonably priced jerseys and biking clothes on line, please forward that URL as well. Really appreciate you input! Ronnie K.
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I just ordered a 900 Lumen (grain of salt) light from Geoman for $84. According to the Light guru's 'round here...it's a pretty decent light, and unbeatable for the money.

I'll report back when I get it tomorrow or Monday.
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2 trustfire 801's and an MTE 900 lumen, straps, batteries, shipping and all for $98


1400 %$# Lumens!!!

3 guys ride with me and NONE of them have lights! I ride in the back, light up the whole trail.

www.dealxtreme.com
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I think that link is
http://www.dealextreme.com/
I'm waiting on two ultrafires for the bars and the MTE P7 for the helmet.
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Old 11-27-09, 01:49 PM   #6
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For $400 I would get one really high powered light for your bars and another for your helmet. I'd recommend the Niterider Minewt X2 Dual for the bars (400 lumens) and the Minewt USB Plus for the helmet.
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I just ordered a 900 Lumen (grain of salt) light from Geoman for $84. According to the Light guru's 'round here...it's a pretty decent light, and unbeatable for the money.

I'll report back when I get it tomorrow or Monday.
That the Magicshine light? You going bar or helmet?

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2 trustfire 801's and an MTE 900 lumen, straps, batteries, shipping and all for $98


1400 %$# Lumens!!!

3 guys ride with me and NONE of them have lights! I ride in the back, light up the whole trail.

www.dealxtreme.com
From what I see at "1400" lumens you'd get an hour run time, what light level do you need to run to get 3 or more hours? What battery/charging setup are you using and was that included in your $98? How easy is it to use the switches on the flashlights while riding? Do they stay aimed well on rough singletrack?

While I know the flashlights can be an economical way to go, not sure they're ideal for battery run time or charging without further investments/modifications, at least when I was looking at a light to buy last year, so didn't go that route. There are lots of choices out there now, that's for sure. If I were to buy $400 worth I think I'd go with both a bar and helmet mount, and probably use the same system for matching light qualities at least. That Magicshine setup might be a good one, haven't seen any reviews yet, certainly the price is good and doable for well under $400 for a helmet and bar mount setup. Another consideration might be a couple Minewt x.2's, you can probably pick up two standard x.2's for under $300 including a helmet mount kit, or maybe a standard x.2 for the helmet and a dual x.2 on the bars, still doable under $400.
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That the Magicshine light? You going bar or helmet?
I got both mounts, but I usually only run 1 light on the helmet. I figure...I don't need light where my eyes aren't pointing, so helmet is plenty for me. I'm a little skeptical, but the consensus sounds like it's worth the coin.
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I got both mounts, but I usually only run 1 light on the helmet. I figure...I don't need light where my eyes aren't pointing, so helmet is plenty for me. I'm a little skeptical, but the consensus sounds like it's worth the coin.
Where do you put the battery when you mount it on the helmet ? Oh and did you get the MagicShine specific Helmet Mount ? How much did it cost you ?

Will be waiting for your MagicShine review.................
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for racing, it will be hard to beat http://www.ayup-lights.com/ for run times, lumens, weight, accessory kit/spare batteries, helmet set-up, etc...

i am a fan of dinotte. however, it saddens me to see that they are not changing much. i can't stand battery mounting. oh well, i am probably going to get the ayup lights above for my up-coming 24 hour races even though i have a lot invested in dinotte.

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Where do you put the battery when you mount it on the helmet ? Oh and did you get the MagicShine specific Helmet Mount ? How much did it cost you ?

Will be waiting for your MagicShine review.................

According to one of those "light geeks", the MagicShine was brighter than his Dinotte and his other comparable light "combined".


Yah...I got the Magic Shine specific helmet mount for $9.99...I forgot to add that to the equation. Still was cheap though.

I believe the whole thing all together was around $105'ish with Priority Mail delivery.
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Just got mine - hasn't been out on a night ride yet, but I have done a comparison with my Fenix and my Dinotte 200L.

Doesn't look greenish at all. If anything it has a warmer yellow tint compared to the two other lights.

No one would be surprised if I said it wasn't really 900 lumens on high. But it does appear to be brighter than the combined beam of my Fenix and the Dinotte - which is all I was looking for really.
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BTW for single track riding you'll want a helmet mount light...
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According to one of those "light geeks", the MagicShine was brighter than his Dinotte and his other comparable light "combined".


Yah...I got the Magic Shine specific helmet mount for $9.99...I forgot to add that to the equation. Still was cheap though.

I believe the whole thing all together was around $105'ish with Priority Mail delivery.
So where does the battery go when using the helmet mount ? Do you run the cable all the way down to your jersey pocket ? It just seems kind of weird that it would actually go on the helmet also, I mean, I don't wanna electrocute my head or something.............
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Here is a link that will answer all your questions.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ght=led+lights
And Zeomax this is how I mount my battert on my helmet.[IMG][/IMG]
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From what I see at "1400" lumens you'd get an hour run time, what light level do you need to run to get 3 or more hours? What battery/charging setup are you using and was that included in your $98? How easy is it to use the switches on the flashlights while riding? Do they stay aimed well on rough singletrack? .
Yeah runtime will be less but I won't need to run on high. Here's my thought, I buy a few extra AA size batteries and keep them in the camelback. I can run way longer than my bike specific lights and not carry near as much weight. THe magic shine is the same P7 emitter as the helmet light i bought. So a couple extra batteries and I'm good to go, except I got 150-180 lumens coming off the bars to boot for a few bucks more

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From what I see at "1400" lumens you'd get an hour run time, what light level do you need to run to get 3 or more hours? What battery/charging setup are you using and was that included in your $98? How easy is it to use the switches on the flashlights while riding? Do they stay aimed well on rough singletrack?

While I know the flashlights can be an economical way to go, not sure they're ideal for battery run time or charging without further investments/modifications, at least when I was looking at a light to buy last year, so didn't go that route. There are lots of choices out there now, that's for sure. If I were to buy $400 worth I think I'd go with both a bar and helmet mount, and probably use the same system for matching light qualities at least. That Magicshine setup might be a good one, haven't seen any reviews yet, certainly the price is good and doable for well under $400 for a helmet and bar mount setup. Another consideration might be a couple Minewt x.2's, you can probably pick up two standard x.2's for under $300 including a helmet mount kit, or maybe a standard x.2 for the helmet and a dual x.2 on the bars, still doable under $400.
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Ok thanks for the pic mystolenbikes.

So, do Dual MagicShines (Helmet + Handlebars) sound like a good idea ?
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Ok thanks for the pic mystolenbikes.

So, do Dual MagicShines (Helmet + Handlebars) sound like a good idea ?
Yep it sure does!
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Yep it sure does!
Then that's probably how I'll do it then.

I was out today and darkness caught up to me, I have a handlebar mounted AA powered $30 Planet Bike light. It was like riding blind.
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Then that's probably how I'll do it then.

I was out today and darkness caught up to me, I have a handlebar mounted AA powered $30 Planet Bike light. It was like riding blind.
That happened to me too, I had my 3 bulb led hiking headlight with me and it became useless after anything above walking speeds. And that's when I decided to invest in some good lights.
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I rode again tonight with my jacked bike light and my AAA flashlight. The flashlight put out more light than the bike light after about 20min.

Can't wait to get my new one.
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I rode again tonight with my jacked bike light and my AAA flashlight. The flashlight put out more light than the bike light after about 20min.

Can't wait to get my new one.
After these experiences you gonna love the Magicshine
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Are the MagicShines only available from the Geoman website ?
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