Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Mountain Biking
Reload this Page >

cornering technique?

Search
Notices
Mountain Biking Mountain biking is one of the fastest growing sports in the world. Check out this forum to discuss the latest tips, tricks, gear and equipment in the world of mountain biking.

cornering technique?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-12-10, 06:11 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 114

Bikes: 1982 Trek 710; 2008 Cannondale F6

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
cornering technique?

I am looking for advice for getting through very sharp corners quickly on tight singletrack.

Right now I feel like I either slow down way too much and then have to exert a lot of effort to get back up to speed after the apex or the front end starts to slide on me. I have wrecked a few times and it hurts!

Should I be putting more or less weight on the front to get more traction? other advice?

The bike is a cannondale F6 hardtail with a cheapo Dart2 fork and CST COMP Caballaro tires.

The trails are in Eastern NC so they are relatively flat, in wooded areas where wet and leaves and sand are the main cornering concerns. I am trying to average 8-10 mph through these sections.

I know that a better fork or tires with bigger knobs would probably help but I am more interested in improving my technique than just buying stuff (read I am poor and cheap too ).

Thanks for the advice.

-cgb
bernside is offline  
Old 01-12-10, 08:12 AM
  #2  
Its Freakin HammerTime!!!
 
C_Heath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Off the back lol
Posts: 2,375

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix and Giant AnthemX

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
There are tons of reasons that cause this. Rider, Shock setup, speed, but first, you need to concentrate on a good front tire. Being from NC, Ive ridden in the sandhill area and I think you need a good soft, aggressive tread tire that has some good side bite. The Kenda Nevegal in Stick E compound will be an awesome tire for that application. You can also get them on Ebay for around $40.

Good Luck.
__________________
Originally Posted by rousseau
I don't like any other exercise or sports, really.
....

https://www.xxcycle.com/logo_w150h100/bmc.jpg
C_Heath is offline  
Old 01-12-10, 08:32 AM
  #3  
LCI #1853
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Scott. Arkansas
Posts: 663

Bikes: Trek Madone 5.2, Fisher Caliber 29er, Orbea Onix

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
"Countersteering" may be what you're looking for here... First of all, NO BRAKES! As you approach the corner, "twitch" your handlebars to the opposite direction that you want to turn... for example, if you are going to turn right, twitch the bars slightly to the left, which causes your bike to lean to the right. As soon as you feel the bike start to lean, put your outside pedal all the way down with some weight on it to help you maintain traction, tuck your inside elbow in to make the bike carve into the turn, and look up and out at the line you want to follow. This last is important, since your bike is going to go where you're looking.

This works well on the road and dry trail, where you've got traction problems (wet leaves, mud, wet trail) you will likely want to bleed off a little speed before starting your turn. Just be sure to lay off the brakes while you're turning...
Pscyclepath is offline  
Old 01-12-10, 10:31 AM
  #4  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 18
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
no u need your back end to slide out like u are drifting and need good tires.
immajackuup is offline  
Old 01-12-10, 05:40 PM
  #5  
fart knocker
 
Oleanshoebox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: laying back in the cut
Posts: 1,818

Bikes: Red silver blue, doodie caca poo.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Pete?
__________________
Oleanshoebox is offline  
Old 01-12-10, 05:49 PM
  #6  
BMW Aficionado
 
David325's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 229

Bikes: '66 Raleigh RSW, '69 Humber Sports, '71 Raleigh Pro, '73 Raleigh Super Course, '74 Raleigh International, '75 + '77 Raleigh Competition, '87 Raleigh Edge, others

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Tires are everything. I'm not an advocate of the "spending money will definitely make you better" theory, but tires are the most important thing to not cheap out on. I have the same bike, and honestly, those tires were crap.. Just think, what's connecting you to the ground? Anyways you could try playing with the pressure first, otherwise it sounds like you've really hit the limit of your tires.
David325 is offline  
Old 01-12-10, 08:15 PM
  #7  
Single-serving poster
 
electrik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 5,098
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Maybe you're just too bad-ass bernside!

In addition to above:
If one wheel slides out, put a little bit more weight towards it.

Don't put all your weight near the rear, it's ok to let the rear slide a bit.
electrik is offline  
Old 01-12-10, 08:28 PM
  #8  
Banned.
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,569
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Flick to the outside of the corner (as in, flick the wrong way as the corner), then quickly steer into the turn, while lifting off (ie. stop pedaling). This shifts the weight from the back to the front, combined with the flick, induce an inertia drift situation. Then apply a bit of opposite lock to get yourself in the right direction again.

For further reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_flick
Cyclist30907654 is offline  
Old 01-12-10, 08:49 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 114

Bikes: 1982 Trek 710; 2008 Cannondale F6

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks for the advice guys. I know how to countersteer and corner from riding a street motorcycle, but there are a lot of new variables on a bike in the woods.

I think I will try lowering my tire pressure a bit, getting more weight forward and practice, practice, practice.

Thanks,

cgb
bernside is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
osco53
Mountain Biking
2
10-13-15 09:22 AM
large cat
Commuting
11
10-30-14 02:55 PM
poopisnotfood
Mountain Biking
8
07-16-12 09:20 PM
echappist
"The 33"-Road Bike Racing
44
04-11-11 08:40 AM
Ghouse
Road Cycling
8
03-21-11 07:49 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.