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Old 01-26-10, 08:48 PM   #1
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Who made GT frames in the 80's?

I have started looking at older MTBs. On a GT I looked at it said it was Made in Japan. I was just wondering what company produced them?

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Old 01-28-10, 11:33 AM   #2
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A quick google found that GT was started in 72 by Gary Turner who wanted to build a better bike for his son. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GT_Bicycles

Here is a link that may help you in your quest

http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/info/122/
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Ooooooo . . . that's a rare one indeed. That particular one was made by Fujoharukawatsan Heavy Industries LTD (most known for making wheel tractors and 50 cal. machine guns) for GT for only one year (1983 I believe), when GT was having a major falling out with their then-supplier in Taiwan over production line quality control. One of the robotic welders was spazzing out and the company was refusing to recalibrate it because it was nearing the end of its life-expectancy and was zeroed out on their depreciation tables - - hence they didn't want to pour money into a unit so near to being retired. Mfr's contention was magnafluxing showed weld penetration was adequate, so there was no need to recalibrate, even though the left lower chainstay welds looked like crap.

GT threatened to file suit but instead yanked production out from under the supplier mid-run and awarded a new contract to Fujoharukawatsan. Big stink ensued but GT prevailed and got that model year line to the dealer's floors.

Other than the sticker, there is no way you'll know by the serial number that it's a Fujoharukawatsan unless you take the bottom bracket out of the shell, and get in there with a dentist's mirror and a flashlight - - you'll see a tiny hand-tooled stamping of an artillery cannon between where the chainstays meet the bottom bracket shell. Hang onto that one; it's a rare piece of cycling history there and bound to only go up in value.
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That is funny stuff there.
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Thanks for the great info. The bike and Chrome and in amazing shape as it was used as a indoor display most of its life. Still has the "GT" print tires.
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I hope people don't really believe this stuff I write.
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I gotta say, that was a good one.
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Ooooooo . . . that's a rare one indeed. That particular one was made by Fujoharukawatsan Heavy Industries LTD (most known for making wheel tractors and 50 cal. machine guns) for GT for only one year (1983 I believe), when GT was having a major falling out with their then-supplier in Taiwan over production line quality control. One of the robotic welders was spazzing out and the company was refusing to recalibrate it because it was nearing the end of its life-expectancy and was zeroed out on their depreciation tables - - hence they didn't want to pour money into a unit so near to being retired. Mfr's contention was magnafluxing showed weld penetration was adequate, so there was no need to recalibrate, even though the left lower chainstay welds looked like crap.

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Total fabrcation....must be on drugs
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Thanks for the great info. The bike and Chrome and in amazing shape as it was used as a indoor display most of its life. Still has the "GT" print tires.
Probably an original GT Timberline model from 1984. GT has a number of their later 80's bikes built at Toyo in Japan but I'm not sure about the first year Timberline and Backwoods models.
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inspect the old ones carefully. be sure the round plastic collars on the brakes are not cracked

tough old bikes. I love them, though it took me a while to get one my size. I'm a happy camper now
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