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Old 08-16-04, 07:13 PM   #1
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Haro

Does haro make a downhill bike? I saw a couple on theire site but i thought Minnaar and Strait used to ride one. Just out of curiosity, what bikes were they and were they ever sold to non-ream riders?
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Old 08-16-04, 07:15 PM   #2
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No they don't the bikes you seen were rebadged intense M1's basically.
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Sorry Kona,

You be the judge....
http://www.harobikes.com/2004/extremex3/
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Old 08-17-04, 03:35 PM   #4
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the extreme series bikes from haro are more freeride bikes than dh.

as for the picture you've attached, if i'm not mistaken, that looks like an "intense" sticker on the seatstay...
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I am not sure why you posted that pic? It is a rebadged intense. They do lighten up I believe but don't remember all the details about the frame.
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Joint venture with Intense/Haro, sort of like SantaCruz/Haro rear geometry. Nothing was copied by either company, Haro allowed SC to use their design.
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Hmm...ok I don't know the background business. I just know inet talk. The inet talk doesn't say anything about it being joint. But a rebadged Intense...not that I case. I can't get haro and can't afford intense
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Joint venture with Intense/Haro, sort of like SantaCruz/Haro rear geometry. Nothing was copied by either company, Haro allowed SC to use their design.
looks a lot like a beefed up version of this intense uzzi slx dh if you ask me...


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Totally different frame to the trained eye.... Similar looking to the Amateur.
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Lady's, Lady's. Calm down. It's going to be alright. Arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics. Even if you win your still ********.

No the Haro X3 isn't a downhill bike. It sure as hell can be used as a downhill bike (I actually do) It's a light downhill/freeride bike.
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Hey Fox Rider,

At least we can ride our HARO's both up & down the mountain, huh? :**

How 'bout you Mael & others so eager to bash.... Ever ridden your 45-55 lb. bikes "up" a mountain before?
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Hey Fox Rider,

At least we can ride our HARO's both up & down the mountain, huh? :**

How 'bout you Mael & others so eager to bash.... Ever ridden your 45-55 lb. bikes "up" a mountain before?

Although life assist is more my style. Yes I can ride my bike up the mountain. It's just a little tougher then on a XC bike.
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looks a lot like a beefed up version of this intense uzzi slx dh if you ask me...


Okay, so the Haro DHR looks like a beefed up Intense Uzzi slx DH. Doesn't the Bullit look like a beefed up Haro X3?
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http://groups.msn.com/BicyclingForum...o&PhotoID=8155 I win.
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Hey Fox Rider,

At least we can ride our HARO's both up & down the mountain, huh? :**

How 'bout you Mael & others so eager to bash.... Ever ridden your 45-55 lb. bikes "up" a mountain before?
I have ridden mine up a mountain, my ride is a hardtail remember.
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HardTails are fun until you really want to fly downhill.... Then they quickly become dusty little memories. I haven't ridden my two hardtails in several years. Fun ratio to a F/S bike is 0 to 10.
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HardTails are fun until you really want to fly downhill.... Then they quickly become dusty little memories. I haven't ridden my two hardtails in several years. Fun ratio to a F/S bike is 0 to 10.

NOT TRUE. There is Hardtail categories at downhill races.
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a few things to mention:

- not arguing, just making a few comments.
- i never said the two were the same frame.
- i don't own a dh bike, much less a bike that weighs 45-55 lbs.
- the original point made by konarider24 was that haro's dh bikes are made/designed by others.
- the bullit/x3 thing... not quite.
- the saved thing... good for you.

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a few things to mention:

- not arguing, just making a few comments.
- i never said the two were the same frame.
- i don't own a dh bike, much less a bike that weighs 45-55 lbs.
- the original point made by konarider24 was that haro's dh bikes are made/designed by others.
- the bullit/x3 thing... not quite.
- the saved thing... good for you.

How do you figure?
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completely different front triangles for one...






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Okay, first off. It's just bent slighty. The DHR and the Uzzi have lots frame differences. And second. I was talking about the rear suspension set-up.
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I'm actually a faster rider on a hardtail when downhilling. I am probably never going to go back to a fullsuspension bike. On a 4x or Dual Course A Fullsuspension bike has nothing on a properly set up hardtail. No pedal feedback, much more nimble as well. Dirtjumpers usually prefer hardtails. You can have your fullsuspension. I'll be on the trail while you are having the bearings replaced.
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Hey Fox Rider,

At least we can ride our HARO's both up & down the mountain, huh? :**

How 'bout you Mael & others so eager to bash.... Ever ridden your 45-55 lb. bikes "up" a mountain before?
Why are you such a troll. If you actually read any of my threads (which I don't think you actually know how to fully read)...I don't do shuttle that often (1 days a week maybe 2). I ride my 45 pound bike for xc/trail riding and have been known to go up (heck I live in a valley of 5 mountains. If I didn't go up I couldn't ride. So troll boy...lick monkey balls...I was gonna stay out this one but thanx for giving me a window to think you are even more annoying than I already did.

Oh and I have a ht to do it all to. My knees just don't like dh on my ht so I don't bother. Kudos to those that do...but I can't.

And I never slammed your bike (I can't believe I am trying to defend myself) I am just saying, specifically in another thread, that the bike was not on the same level as other companies fr bikes. The suspension design is weak (as in not active all the time) and its pretty annoying as a fr bike not to be able to use DC forks without voiding a warranty.
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Oh and BTW I think the haro DH is an awesome bike. Even though it is rebadged...it is a damn nice bike to rebadge. If I only did DH I would consider one of those for myself.
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Okay, first off. It's just bent slighty. The DHR and the Uzzi have lots frame differences. And second. I was talking about the rear suspension set-up.
Just so you know. On a single pivot, the rear can be a square for all the bike cares. The suspension acts depending on where the pivots are located on the front triangle in relation to the rear pivot in relation to the bb area pivot.

The 2 bikes are close but look closely to how high up the downtube the one pivot is, compared to the top pivot compared to the triangle pivot. They really aren't very close, the only similarity is that they are single pivots.

Troll boy seems to be the online expert. I am sure he understand the nuances of single pivot frame design, he can explain it to you in greater detail...
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