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    Can Anyone Identify This Shock Absorber?

    This bike is listed as having "adjustable suspension".

    Can anyone identify the make & model of this shock so that I can find more info?

    The front forks are listed in the spec's so I was able to find some data, but there is no manufacturer or model# listed for the rear suspension/shock.


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    Looks lik an Xfusion - with adjustable preload and rebound.

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    It is a KS (KindShock) brand shock. Appears to be a model KS-291 - - rebound adjust only (well, besides the spring preload):



    More info here:

    http://www.kindshock.com.cn/en/produ...7&fid2=&id=693

    BTW, I see that you are looking at a Cadillac bike. I would be a bit leery of that.
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    ^^ Oops

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    In search of moar cowbell dminor's Avatar
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    ^^ S'okay . . . I cheated and resampled it in Photoshop to see if I could read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dminor View Post
    It is a KS (KindShock) brand shock. Appears to be a model KS-291 - - rebound adjust only (well, besides the spring preload):



    More info here:

    http://www.kindshock.com.cn/en/produ...7&fid2=&id=693

    BTW, I see that you are looking at a Cadillac bike. I would be a bit leery of that.

    Thanks, very informative post. Just the kind of information I was looking for.

    Yes that is a Cadillac MDS2.4.

    Why would you be "a bit leery"?

    For the $399.99 shipped price it's probably the best I can find & most of the spec'ed components seem pretty good for an "entry level" bike.



    Available in 17, 19, and 21 inch frame sizes.

    SIZE GUIDE

    17" FRAME WILL FIT RIDERS 5'3"-5'7"
    19" FRAME WILL FIT RIDERS 5'8"-6'0"
    21" FRAME WILL FIT RIDERS 6'0"-6'3"

    -Frame:Custom 7005 Aluminum with coil spring
    -Fork: RST GILA 100mm travel
    -Chain: KMC Z 51
    -Crank set: SR Suntour 48, 38, 28
    -BB: Shimano Cartridge
    -Front Derailleur: Micro Shift Alloy
    -Rear Derailleur: Shimano Alivio
    -Shifters: Shimano Alivio 24 speed Dual Index Trigger Type
    -Brake levers: Shimano
    -Brakes: TEKTRO Mechanical Disc
    -Cassette: 13-34
    -Rims: 26” Vitesse V-Provile Alloy with Stainless Steel Spokes
    -Hubs: 32 HOLE Alloy Sealed Bearing
    -Tires: Kenda Nevegal 2.35 Wire Bead
    -Stem: Vitesse 31.8 Alloy 100mm 5 deg rise
    -Handlebar: Vitesse 31.8 Alloy Mountain Riser 10 deg bend 40mm rise
    -Headset: 1-1/8” High Stack Semi-Integrated
    -Saddle: Cadillac Custom Embossed
    -Seat post: Suspension 27.2
    -Pedals: VP Alloy Platform
    -Weight: 29.9 lbs (19”)
    -Color: Root beer/Black

    I realize this is not a top of the line or even mid level bike. It is a bike that is designed for someone like me that wants to try out the sport & I have realistic expectations.

    As far as buying "online"? I don't feel the need or particularly want LBS support as I have almost always ended up doing my own work when "professionals" have not stacked up to my standards. Most of the time I end up doing my own repairs after the "professionals" have had their turn @ it. I am very comfortable buying from the online retailer that I have chosen.

    Besides, there are no "competent" (IMO) LBSs less than 1 1/2 hours from my remote location anyway.

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    In all honesty, that bike actually looks a lot better than most of the "car-branded" bikes that one generally sees for sale online. And it also appears to be much better than big-box department store bikes. You will get a lot of people here warning you not to buy it beacuse "any full suspension bike under $1,000 is junk" - - which carries a nugget of truth to it.

    I say "a bit leery" because of the less-obvious things that may not show up right away, like suspension pivots that may be supported by plastic bushings rather than real metal bushings or bearings and the likelihood of this bike weighing far more than its claimed sub-30 lbs. All-in-all though, this appears at first blush to be a better-than-average suspension bike in that price range.


    BTW, KindShock is an Asian brand that is trying to establish a toe-hold in the legitimate mountain bike-supply market. They make a couple 'gravity dropper'-like seatposts that actually work; although I know nothing about their shock line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dminor View Post
    In all honesty, that bike actually looks a lot better than most of the "car-branded" bikes that one generally sees for sale online. And it also appears to be much better than big-box department store bikes. You will get a lot of people here warning you not to buy it beacuse "any full suspension bike under $1,000 is junk" - - which carries a nugget of truth to it.

    I say "a bit leery" because of the less-obvious things that may not show up right away, like suspension pivots that may be supported by plastic bushings rather than real metal bushings or bearings and the likelihood of this bike weighing far more than its claimed sub-30 lbs. All-in-all though, this appears at first blush to be a better-than-average suspension bike in that price range.


    BTW, KindShock is an Asian brand that is trying to establish a toe-hold in the legitimate mountain bike-supply market. They make a couple 'gravity dropper'-like seatposts that actually work; although I know nothing about their shock line.
    Well to be honest W/you, being a former (somewhat disgruntled) GM employee, I would rather the bike did not have the "Cadillac" badging!

    Your (probably) vastly more experienced opinion on the quality level seems to go along W/my impressions. I have spent the last week researching MTBs in the $400 price range & this bike has far more to offer than any I have found. It seems to be a lot of bike for the money. I was actualy ready to pay $584.99 for the bike W/my Sears card when I accidentally found the new "promotionsl pricing" that has become available. Your comment on the shock manufacturer try to get a "toe-hold in the legitimate mountain bike-supply market" seems (to me @ least) to be along the lines of what Cadillac is trying to do W/this legitimate entry level MTB.

    I have had a few converstions W/the dealer (Bikes4families.com) & my very sensitive & usually accurate bull$hit meter hasen't gone off even 1 time. He has been very honest, as far as I can tell, on what my expectations for this bike should be & he speaks highly of the customer service of the Cadillac brand & said I can return the bike if not satified within 10 days.

    If this bike proves tp have a decent frame structure I expect to upgrade compnents as they wear out & my riding style warrants. The dealer had some suggestions as far as what upgrades I might eventually want to make as far as lighter & better performing components.

    Thank you for your honest opinion & informative posts.

    If I do pull the trigger next week when my tax check arrives, I'll try to post a "first impressions" review of the bike.

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    I've read the 'don't get a FS bike under $1k' advice so many times I've begun to think of it as gospel, so you've really piqued my curiosity. I anxiously await your review.
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    No way in hell that this is going to be sub 30 with wire bead nevegals on it, coil suspension, no name cranks and wheels.

    (they wouldn't be the first bicycle company to lie about claimed weight though)

    I would stear clear for the reasons Dminor detailed in his post.

    You won't notice much of a difference out of the box, but after a while, when the suspension is creaking, the swingarm cracks, and someone steals your cadillac head tube badge, you'll be sorry

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    I like this part..........


    SIZE GUIDE

    17" FRAME WILL FIT RIDERS 5'3"-5'7"
    19" FRAME WILL FIT RIDERS 5'8"-6'0"
    21" FRAME WILL FIT RIDERS 6'0"-6'3
    Like a circus monkey on a stolen Harley......

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Law View Post
    No way in hell that this is going to be sub 30 with wire bead nevegals on it, coil suspension, no name cranks and wheels.

    (they wouldn't be the first bicycle company to lie about claimed weight though)

    I would stear clear for the reasons Dminor detailed in his post.

    You won't notice much of a difference out of the box, but after a while, when someone steals your cadillac head tube badge, you'll be sorry
    Actually, IF there IS a Cadillac head tube badge, I'll probably remove it myself.

    I hadn't thought about a head tube badge, but I'm already contemplating painting over the Cadillac script. Since it's on the black portioan of the frame it wouldn't be hard to blend in!

    The Cadillac co-branding is not one of the reasons I am considering this bike. After all, I worked for the morons @ GM for over 18 years. The Cadillac badging is a bit of an embarassment if you ask me.

    Still, I was never a "name" buyer anyway considering that the last 3 cars my wife & I have purchased were an '05 Dodge Power Wagon, '06 Dodge Charger Daytona & a used '06 Volkswagon Jetta. All this while I worked for GM.

    As far as weight? One of the things the dealer suggested to further reduce weight was replacing the wire bead tires W/Arimid bead specimins.

    I still haven't seen anything that will make me change my mind given the 10 day ride/return policy.

    I'm not looking for a racer here & being a retired skilled tradesman & died in the wool gearhead of over 40 years experience, it won't be hard for me to make tweaks to the suspension bearing surfaces if need be.

    I tore apart reassembled my 1st engine @ 15 years of age & that was almost 45 years ago. I could fill pages W/my modification/mechanical experience. but I won't bore you W/that

    Here is a video clip of my current (power adder) record holding 5.7 powered (4200#) Dodge Charger. I drive it to tracks all over the Northeastern quadrent of the US. It has made passes in Quebec, Canada, NJ, NY, NH, MD, OH & IN. It averages 26 MPG on the hi-way @ about 73 MPH criuse. It has all the bells & whistles except Nav.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhG0KlXEOnU

    It does OK "on motor" too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Sbz...eature=related
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    Quote Originally Posted by dminor View Post
    why is there an infant on that seatpost? They come stock like that? I guess they really do have alot of people over there if they are just giving them away with seatposts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Law View Post
    why is there an infant on that seatpost? They come stock like that? I guess they really do have alot of people over there if they are just giving them away with seatposts.
    Gee I hope that isn't the "tech" assembling those shocks!

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    Tax Refund Has Arrived!

    Well, Uncle Sam managed to pay back the money he borrowed from me a few days early so I'm going to pull the trigger & give this bike a try.

    I have a call into bikes4families.com as I have a few questions about spare tubes, stiffer shock springs, tools etc. as well as what kind of "free" helmet I'm getting W/the bike. I have a huge (thick scull?) head so it will be interesting to see what they are "giving" away.

    When I receive the bike I will make sure to give it a good once over including dismantling the rear suspension far enough to inspect the bearing surfaces, etc.

    I'll make sure to weigh the bike after assembly too but as long as it is within a few #s of the clamied 29.9# mark I won't be upset.

    Hopefully I can give a full inspection/first impressions report by the middle of next week.

    If this bike can pass the test W/my larda$$ riding it, that should be a good indication of it's suitability for "Clydesdale" applications.

    Agian. I'm only expecting a comfortable bike to explore ski trails & haul roads that will hold up. I suspect that I will replace/upgrade suspension components as they wear out as long as the frame/swingarm hold up. I'm the type of guy that can use a piece of machinery hard W/O tearing it up so maybe I can give an honest, unbiased evaluation.

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