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Old 03-21-10, 01:06 AM   #1
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2009 Rockhopper at the LBS?

So just as Spring Break began, my long-suffering tank of a road bike died a horrible death and I can't seem to revive it. I'm currently in the market for a new bike, and lo and behold, my LBS has a 2009 Rockhopper in my size for $450 from about $699.

Is that good? There is a catch, though. I am a college student and I do intend to ride it for mostly commuting. If things pan out there may be some mountain biking and if you've seen me ride (flying over broken pavement, grassy hills, curbs and the like), I've figured that suspension would be nice. It's not that I don't like road bikes; it's that I feel that they're usually out of my price range.

I'm definitely not going to leave it out overnight as there's space in my living room (I have a suite), plus I'm going to invest in a good lock that I'll use to secure the wheel to the downtube.

If it is good, should I negotiate any further? Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-21-10, 08:23 AM   #2
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If you only have one bike I'd definitely get the mountain bike. This way you can commute with ease but you can also ride trails if you want. Can't do that on a road bike. Here's an idea. Buy the Rockhopper and also a pair of skinner tires designed for pavement. Use the skinnier tires unless you are going to go ride trails. Then take the 20 minutes and put on the trail tires the bike came with. Pretty easy and cost effective. Plus, $250 off a $699 bike is a huge discount.

Are we talking about the Rockhopper Comp Disc, BTW?
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If you only have one bike I'd definitely get the mountain bike. This way you can commute with ease but you can also ride trails if you want. Can't do that on a road bike. Here's an idea. Buy the Rockhopper and also a pair of skinner tires designed for pavement. Use the skinnier tires unless you are going to go ride trails. Then take the 20 minutes and put on the trail tires the bike came with. Pretty easy and cost effective. Plus, $250 off a $699 bike is a huge discount.

Are we talking about the Rockhopper Comp Disc, BTW?
http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/...2&menuItemId=0

I don't think so. I think it's this one.
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That one has center pull brakes. Good entry level bike at a great price though.
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Still a fine bike. I still suggest buying it with a pair of street tires while reserving the factory knobbies for any trail miles.
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So general consensus says yes, go for it, am I right? If so, should I try to talk the guy down to $400 or should I just stick to $450 and have them toss in the tires/helmets/tune-ups?

Since bikepedia says MSRP is 640 and not the 699 they "claim", should I be worried?

Thanks for all this help, guys (and girls!)
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Yes go for it you can try to bring the price down but they will never throw in free tires/helmet but tune up yes.
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Wait, before i buy anything, I heard that 2009 hardrocks had a freewheel/cassette that wasn't so good and it was upgraded for 2010. Is that an issue for the rockhoppers and if so, anything I should keep an eye out on?
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Wait, before i buy anything, I heard that 2009 hardrocks had a freewheel/cassette that wasn't so good and it was upgraded for 2010. Is that an issue for the rockhoppers and if so, anything I should keep an eye out on?
Nope only hardrock came with the free wheel not the rockhopper.
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$450 is a good deal for just about any "real" bike. I think it's a fair price. Would also be fair to just go ahead and buy the other accessories. Plus, the Rockhopper is a very nice looking bike.
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Ok, so I was at the store and ready to spring, but before I did, I made a phone call to a cyclist uncle that made me stop. He told me that a 17" was a bit big for someone my size (5'10) with a 32ish inseam (quick calc, not "accurate".) I then tried out his bikes - a 15" stumpjumper comp with the works from a few years back and a 17" Gary Fisher Paragon. The Stumpjumper really was quite a bit more nimble and the components a bit better. He also recommended going for something with LX/XT parts and as the Rockhopper has the Altus FD, he kinda didn't recommend it. As getting a 2010 Stumpjumper is way, way out of my league, should I just stick with the 17" Rockhopper and work as I go along or should I just get a beater, and wait until my knight in shining armor appears at the LBS? How much of the "speed" and nimble behavior was attributed to size and how much to the components? The LBS only has a 17 and a 19 and I'm this (holds fingers 1/8th an inch apart) close to buying it. The guy said to go with the 17 but as I heard that he is kinda meh about certain things (Go "Yelp" Nomad Cyclery in San Francisco for more)

I'm new to this whole LBS thing as my only experience with bikes is with crap that came from stores that also sold underwear and toothbrushes. The fact that I could ride a bike uphill in any gear was somewhat of a revelation to me.

Edit: It seems I was wrong the whole time. They did claim a price of $640; didn't want to unintentionally ruin my LBS' name.
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He also recommended going for something with LX/XT parts and as the Rockhopper has the Altus FD, he kinda didn't recommend it.
You can not get a new bike equipped with Shimano LX / SLX (not only one component, but the whole group) for $450. Let alone a bike with Shimano Deore XT group.
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Great news! As of 6:00 p.m., I'm the proud owner of a 2009 Rockhopper. Thanks for all of your help, it was greatly appreciated. The LBS didn't try to upsell me; they in fact tried to steer me towards a hybrid. But seeing as none of them really did the job and cost more or less the same (and according to my uncle's advice) I went with the Rockhopper. Crazy? But as I'm riding it, I'm quite happy.
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Congrats. You did well. Your buddy meant well but to get where he was pointing you would have taken twice the dough.
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Congrats! Now post a picture of it.
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I'll put pictures up! As soon as I take it for a shakedown run.
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