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    Running Nevegal's Backwards

    Has anyone run their rear Nevegal backwards, so the square side (not the ramped side) of the center tread is in contact first? If so, how did it work out?


    PS: I was zoning out in the back of my buddies car the other day with my tire about a foot from my face when I got the idea. It might be stupid. If so, explain why and I'll apologize
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    Well I think it would provide better grip for putting down power, but at the sacrifice of braking performance and rolling resistance.

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    That is just so crazy it might work!

    wait - what are you trying to accomplish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dheorl View Post
    Well I think it would provide better grip for putting down power, but at the sacrifice of braking performance and rolling resistance.
    that was what I could come up with too- and for my application (lots of steep climbing and rocky descending), that is an attractive tradeoff for me. I think I'm gonna do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by electrik View Post
    That is just so crazy it might work!

    wait - what are you trying to accomplish?
    Mostly to get more grip for technical ascents (should have clarified my OP, for sure).
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    I would say this might be an advantage and worth giving up other control factors if you were putting out 23 horsepower while climbing those hills. But since we measure human output in watts (like light bulbs); I would have to think that what little is gained would be more than lost in giving up braking control on your descents - - and the fact that tread patterns are designed to optimize cornering traction in direction-of-rotation mode.

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    I tried it. The chain didn't really line up with the cogs and just sort of sat there on the spokes. The brake disk ended up on the opposite side of the wheel from the caliper so I'm pretty sure that setup doesn't work.

    Seriously though, I did try the Nevegal "backwards" and the tire was like a boat anchor, tons of rolling resistance. Or maybe I'm just slow. Actaully, I know that I'm slow, but that's a different problem.

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    Running them backwards will actually cause a disturbance in the space time continuum and result in time slowing down.... much like smoking a lot of dope but without the associated blind screaming munchies.

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    sounds like it's not super promising. I do have a lot of time on my hands, however, so I may try it anyway just for the yuks. But I won't say you didn't warn me

    And SF, I'll keep some funyons on me just in case.
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    As others have said: not good. I tried it a bit, front and rear, just to see.

    Nevegals are slow rolling tires to begin with, and this made it worse. Braking suffered, traction was actually worse overall.
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    funyons... have never seen or tried them.

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    Up here it's Hawkin's Cheezies ftw... 'cept you can't get them in the U.S.

    Guess there is a U.S. embargo on all natural, preservative free corn snacks made with real Canadian aged cheddar ... and they make a damn fine fire starter too.

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    It should also be noted that, if you run a Nevegal backwards and listen very carefully, the hum of the tread sounds like it's saying "Maxxis is dead."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dminor View Post
    It should also be noted that, if you run a Nevegal backwards and listen very carefully, the hum of the tread sounds like it's saying "Maxxis is dead."
    Dude. I didn't need that coffee through my nose.

    That said, I've got a Minion DHF 2.35 setup tubeless on the back of the Marque, paired with a Nevegal 2.35 DTC up front. The combo is tits. The hardtail is the same up front, but an Intense XC system-4 in back. Got two more of those to burn through, and it'll be swapped to a Minion as well. I still prefer the Nevegal up front, though.

    I'm finding with the tubeless setup, I can run lighter/skinnier/less chunky tires on the trailbikes, without the worry of pinch flatting. Anyone want to buy a bunch of 2.35 Intense tires?
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    OP: the Nevegal DTC climbs rocky chunk so well facing forward...I believe the difference would be negligible with the flat ground / descent difference being far more than negligible.

    Try it and report back though...they do still make the Velociraptor, ya know.

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    If you want grip you can't go wrong with the specialized captains for the rear.

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    I wouldnt run them backwards, but for the record, I ran my WTB Vraptor front tyre backwards out back (that was hard for me to articulate). I found that it worked better, but I think this season I might actually get a proper tyre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    OP: the Nevegal DTC climbs rocky chunk so well facing forward...I believe the difference would be negligible with the flat ground / descent difference being far more than negligible.

    Try it and report back though...they do still make the Velociraptor, ya know.
    I'm gonna give it a quick after-work try today, and will report back. Most likely it's not gonna be favorable, but I've got the time to spare, so why not?

    As far as the raptor goes, I've got a hookup through kenda, so I'm pretty loyal to their stuff. I just wish they would make a 29er H-factor.
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    Ok, so I tried it, and it's pretty much what was expected- noticeably better traction, offset by really sketch braking performance. The rear tire goes from zero to skid in no time flat, which was kinda fun for a day, but not a practical solution.

    As a side note, I also noticed that the tire wear was significant- the (usually back, now) front side of the center line blocks gets chewed up in a hurry when it's the contact patch. I would say these tires won't last very long flipped backwards.

    All told, it was fun to fishtail around singletrack for a day, but I'll be switching them back to right way round.
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