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Old 12-04-10, 06:05 PM   #1
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Tire selection

I have an 09 Specialized Rockhopper Comp and I want to swap out the stock tires to something a little "better". They work fine, but don't shed mud that great and just seem OK, not great. I live in Pa, riding conditions range from some mud, single track, some fireroads, loose shale (sharp!) and some hardpack thrown in for good measure. Basically, I need a tire that can do everything good. I'm not switching to tubeless and I'd like to get best bang for my buck (I'm a bit cheap). Please let me know your thoughts and experiences with different tires (what you ride, type of terrain etc). Thanks!
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Try Maxxis Minion DHF 2.35 wire bead at Blue Sky Cycling for $22 bucks each. A little heavy, a little slow but they're awesome grippers.
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Find a tire that works on all those conditions is tough. The Larsen TT is the most versatile tire that I've used, though I haven't tried it in overly muddy conditions. The Kenda Nevegal seems to be pretty good too, though I admittedly have less riding time on that tire than the Larsen.

Larsen TT is $20 at Blue Sky Cycling. Nevegal is $28 on the same site.
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Kenda Excavator blew me away on a muddy climb. I was used to a Nevegal...occasional slippage...I did a muddy chute climb with my new Excavator and didn't slip a wheel. My riding bud was on a maiden voyage with his new Excavators on the same ride and noticed the same thing. We both stopped and talked at the top of the chute and were like "WOW!"
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I really like the WTB Exi Wolf for good grip and fast rolling. If you're in the wet more than not the Maxxis Highroller is hard to beat.
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Anybody try the WTB Weirwolf Race Tire? It looks like it would be effective. Also, I've seen a few locals running Small Blocks. Thoughts? I spend most of my riding time riding vintage road bikes throughout backroads and buying tires for them is cake, something skinwall or tubular. Not much to think about there.
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Smallblocks suck in moisture
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How do they suck in moisture? Are they made out of sponge rubber or something?
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mtnbiker66, Widely spaced blocks throw mud off (self clean) more easily than closely spaced blocks.

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i love the continental rubber queens. they changed the name from rubber queen to trail king, so look at conti trail kings. they are excellent in hard pack and rock and fire roads. mud....they do ok.
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I really like the WTB Exi Wolf
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I have been riding the Kenda Nevegal for about eight months now. I have been very pleased with them. I have not hany any problems in mud with them but I also have limited muddy encounters and I live in an area that is pretty flat so I have not had any muddy uphill battles. For the past two months, I have been running them tubless and have not had any problems there either.

I do have intentions of changing them out at some point to schwables because I want a tire that is designed to be tubeless and I like the Rocket Ron and Raceing Ralph tires they make.
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How do they suck in moisture? Are they made out of sponge rubber or something?
Yes, actually...they tend to swell when they get wet. By the end of the ride...you have clearance issues on even the widest pugs.

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mtnbiker66, Widely spaced blocks throw mud off (self clean) more easily than closely spaced blocks.

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Hmmm...I'm gonna have to call BS on that one.


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I have been riding the Kenda Nevegal for about eight months now. I have been very pleased with them. I have not hany any problems in mud with them but I also have limited muddy encounters and I live in an area that is pretty flat so I have not had any muddy uphill battles. For the past two months, I have been running them tubless and have not had any problems there either.

I do have intentions of changing them out at some point to schwables because I want a tire that is designed to be tubeless and I like the Rocket Ron and Raceing Ralph tires they make.
If you would pay attention, the OP is asking for opinions on a tire that you have experience with for a variety of terrain. This means you must steer clear of personal experience, varied terrain, tires, and pretty much any discussion that is relevant to the original topic.


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Yes, actually...they tend to swell when they get wet. By the end of the ride...you have clearance issues on even the widest pugs.


Hmmm...I'm gonna have to call BS on that one.




If you would pay attention, the OP is asking for opinions on a tire that you have experience with for a variety of terrain. This means you must steer clear of personal experience, varied terrain, tires, and pretty much any discussion that is relevant to the original topic.


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mtnbiker66, Widely spaced blocks throw mud off (self clean) more easily than closely spaced blocks.

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Kenda Excavator blew me away on a muddy climb. I was used to a Nevegal...occasional slippage...I did a muddy chute climb with my new Excavator and didn't slip a wheel. My riding bud was on a maiden voyage with his new Excavators on the same ride and noticed the same thing. We both stopped and talked at the top of the chute and were like "WOW!"
I tell everyone that will listen that Excavators are hands-down THE best all-conditions tire I have used. And my 'gold standard' used to be Minion DHFs. I like Nevegals, don't get me wrong, but the Exs take it.
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I'm just throwing this out there because I often ride a hybrid although my winter bike is a cheap Canadian Tire mountain bike with front suspension. First, on a hybrid, I tried 700x35 that came on my CCM Excelsior and found I could feel train tracks way too much with that. Then I tried 700x45 Kenda Keen Commuter tires I found at Nashbar. These tires have an awesome thread that dissapates water and still allows you from city smoothness and some treads for riding on trails at the same time. Really clever design although I found when you don't have enough air in the tires, they're slow like molasses.

Now, on the subject of winter biking in the snow, I find even 26x1.75 tires are fat enough to be heavy and slow when the snow sticks to your tires. My current idea when I have the money is to build a winter bike that takes 700c tires but to choose a frame one size or even several sizes smaller (just in case the bike slips under me quickly and I land on my feet) then using maybe 700x40 studded tires and sealed hubs, headset and of course bottom bracket. Much thinner tires like 700x40 compared to 26 inch tires might just do the trick to cut threw the snow very quickly with less resistance yet still allow you to stay on the bike with the studs. That might be a future project for me because I haven't finished the touring bike I wanted to build but I already started doing research on the idea.
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I tell everyone that will listen that Excavators are hands-down THE best all-conditions tire I have used. And my 'gold standard' used to be Minion DHFs. I like Nevegals, don't get me wrong, but the Exs take it.
Commuting through puddles on a recumbent doesn't qualify you to give advice to the OP regarding "all conditions".
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^^ Another Bfer gets lost on the way to the Commuting forum . . . .


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I tell everyone that will listen that Excavators are hands-down THE best all-conditions tire I have used. And my 'gold standard' used to be Minion DHFs. I like Nevegals, don't get me wrong, but the Exs take it.
Who doesn't listen?
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+1 for Maxxis - ADvantage and Ardent have been very good tires for me as a "all arounder"
I also love the Ignitors and you can usually find them on blow-out sale somewhere if you look. Blue sky just had them on sale and I think Jenson did too.
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Muddy conditions, wow, I gonna have to book a trip to find some place that has mud! Our rocks get slippery, thats all the desert is good for.
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I see your eyes glaze over when you tune me out. Not that it keeps me from yammering on anyway .
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That was actually directed toward you ya old phart.
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^^ Dang, it was, wasn't it? Well, I resemble your slander! My 'bent is a Super-Gnar-'Bent I'll have you know. And I'm almost as fast on it as I am on my Rascal.
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