Dual Suspension, what to look for?
10-15-04, 06:50 PM
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Dual Suspension, what to look for?
Is there a better position for the rear suspension to be on a dual suspension bike? Like what differs the good ones from the cheaper ones? (i.e. pivot location, spring, where it all connects).
What should i be lookin for? Is a Y frame better?
What should i be lookin for? Is a Y frame better?
10-15-04, 06:56 PM
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They Y-frame is the worst FS bike frame ever made.
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Originally Posted by KonaRider24
They Y-frame is the worst FS bike frame ever made.
10-15-04, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
Hey don't forget that one that looked like a catapult. The y-frame was at least better than that death machine.
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Front and rear suspension would be a good start. 
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Horst linkage I believe, or a similar design is most desireable. I don't know much about rear suspension systems, so I'll read it too.
https://www.math.chalmers.se/~olahe/B...r/fourbar.html
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That is one of the better explanations. There are so many variables involved and it also depends on what you want (very active or good pedaller etc...) Fr your first dually...buy one and play a lot...year or two. Play on your friends bikes. You will know later what you need/want 
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Some info here, descriptions of suspension types, terms..
https://www.rhythmcycles.com/xcart/cu...learn_defs.php
https://www.rhythmcycles.com/xcart/cu...learn_defs.php
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Originally Posted by jeff williams
Horst linkage I believe, or a similar design is most desireable. I don't know much about rear suspension systems, so I'll read it too.
https://www.math.chalmers.se/~olahe/B...r/fourbar.html
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Originally Posted by jeff williams
O.k.
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[QUOTE=Raiyn][color=blue]Specialized makes EXCELLENT dual suspension bikes based off the Horst linkage https://www.specialized.com/sbc4Bar.jsp?a=b They were great before the advent of "stable platform" shocks they're even better with the new shocks. My next dual squish WILL be another FSR.
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I've been drooling over the FSR's, they look so dang sweet to me. I only have hardtail, and I have been planning on saving up for a FSR of some sort from Specialized.
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I've been drooling over the FSR's, they look so dang sweet to me. I only have hardtail, and I have been planning on saving up for a FSR of some sort from Specialized.
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
[color=blue]Specialized makes EXCELLENT dual suspension bikes based off the Horst linkage https://www.specialized.com/sbc4Bar.jsp?a=b They were great before the advent of "stable platform" shocks they're even better with the new shocks. My next dual squish WILL be another FSR.
10-16-04, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hopper
That ain't a catapult, thats a ballista.
I like that thing, and history has taught us that suspension linkages, like weaponry designs, must progress.
BWAHAHAAA!! Nice.
I had a split Tri suspension frame in?? 1979! Had a real motocross shock for a toptube and a hinge benind the BB. Stupid bike, fun to bouce tho- no idea who made it, looked handbuilt.
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Originally Posted by Juniper
I've got a friend who is looking at a Trek Liquid 10. What is the Specialized equivelant of that?
I put it at the same level as the FSR(not the FSR XC, the standard FSR)
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Personally I think the fsr is better. I couldn't stand the feel of the liquid. Very very soft feeling suspension even when sprung for my weight.
10-16-04, 02:02 PM
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O.k, maybe I should have removed the ballista caption..catapults are wimpy.
I like that thing, and history has taught us that suspension linkages, like weaponry designs, must progress.
BWAHAHAAA!! Nice.
I had a split Tri suspension frame in?? 1979! Had a real motocross shock for a toptube and a hinge benind the BB. Stupid bike, fun to bouce tho- no idea who made it, looked handbuilt.
I like that thing, and history has taught us that suspension linkages, like weaponry designs, must progress.
BWAHAHAAA!! Nice.
I had a split Tri suspension frame in?? 1979! Had a real motocross shock for a toptube and a hinge benind the BB. Stupid bike, fun to bouce tho- no idea who made it, looked handbuilt.
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Originally Posted by Juniper
I've got a friend who is looking at a Trek Liquid 10. What is the Specialized equivelant of that?
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As for rear suspension, my favorite is Rocky Mountain's 3D link. It's a simple design which is light, strong and climbs very well.
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Hopper, you're right, also known as a siege engine. There are a scary number of websites about how to build a full sized siege engine 
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lol lets build one...we will fire potatoes out of it and thenfind them and cook them and eat them...hhe
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-Stretch- Have you seen the websites that tell you how to build a potato gun out of large bore PVC and hairspray as a propellant? All I can say is "God bless America!" - those things are awesome but would probably get you arrested in the UK .
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me and my friends made a co2 powered potatoe gun(cannon). and daaaaang that thing could launch potatoes far! We shot it once, deemed it way to dangerous(i.e. cool) and disassembled it.
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ya...my olders bros friend went to engineering school in ontario, came home one day a built one in like 3 hours...it was prett crazy, potatoes went about 100 yrds.