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    Bike upgrade?

    ive been riding a 2006 Trek 4300 ( http://www.bikepedia.com/quickbike/B...4300&Type=bike ) in the mountains on logging roads and such here and there when i can but recently I've been seeing a lot of street time....and my bike hasnt taken it well, on the road i kept my bike in 3rd gear on the front and between 5th and 8th between stop lights and straightaways...well my 8th gear starter having a problem where if i pedaled hard something would slip and i'd have a surge forward on the pedals, so i stopped using 8th gear as all of the other gears were fine, but then my downshift trigger fell off so i was stuck on my 7th gear for quite some time, in this time i started having the same problem as 8th gear but it increased to the point 7th gear wouldnt propel the bike, when i inspected the gear it was cracked and missing a tooth or two so when i pedaled the gear would spin independently of the rest-i also bent my back rim but im not really sure how that happened on the street-anyways my bike was stolen out of a friends backyard so those problems are over with but my question is about my next bike, i liked my trek it shifted great, was quite and the geometry fit me well - i was considering the trek 4500 ( http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...ries/4500disc/ ) as an upgrade especially since i want to get more involved in mountain biking, but will it have the same problems as my last bike, should i look at other brands or a chaper model such as the 3500 as an example ( http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...3_series/3500/ )

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    Whatever you get, keep it maintained. I do a basic once over/tune up every time i go out on my bike. I'd bet a dollar that all your shifting problems would have disappeared with a tune-up from a LBS.

    Get the bike that fits you well, and costs something youre willing to spend, given the amount or riding you plan on doing.

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    Your typin' skeelz rawk! I'm in awe. I can't even read your post, it's so masterful.
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    chelboes, are immature comments like that really needed? obviously this is only my second post here i dont know everything about bikes, why dont you use your experience to help some one enter the sport instead of turning them away?

    to crazyotte- there was a few years where the bike wasnt maintained and hardly used, but when i brought it back out for heavier use i did have the tune up, the bike shifted great and was one of the features i liked about it, but the metal gear was physically cracked whether it be from low quality parts or the extra abuse put on the parts from not being maintained

    but really my question is, at what point do you notice the difference in the quality of parts between a $400 and $800 bike, they share the same frame so the geometry is all the same, the only difference is the drivetrain and fork- will there be any noticeable perforance differences besides the different gearings on the street? ie bearings/rolling resistance?
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    Fixed it for you.
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    I've been riding a 2006 Trek 4300 originally in the mountains on logging roads and other trails when i had the chance. Recently however I've been seeing a lot of street time....and my bike hasnt taken it well. When I ride on the road i keep my bike in the higher gears (3rd gear in the front, 5-8 in the rear) and eventually my 7th gear in the rear completely cracked through and lost a tooth so it would no longer propel the bike. My 8th gear in the rear was also having similar problems where if i pedaled too hard it would slip. The bad news is my bike was stolen out of a friends backyard so these problems are not what this thread is about. My question i need your help with is about choosing my next bike. I liked my trek a lot; it shifted perfect, was extremely quiet and the geometry of the bike was perfect. Since my last bike was the Trek 4300 i looked a model higher at the Trek 4500 disc as an upgrade especially since i want to get more involved in mountain biking however I'm concerned I'll have the same problems as my last bike. I believe the rear gear assembly is called the cassette, is this a part that will inevitably wear out on any bike? Since the cassette was the only mechanical issue i had with my 4300 should i even worry about upgrading or should i look at cheaper bikes such as the Trek 3700?

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    wtf?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazerEagle View Post
    I've been riding a 2006 Trek 4300, originally in the mountains on logging roads, and other trails when i had the chance. Recently, however, I've been seeing a lot of street time....and my bike hasn't taken it well. When I ride on the road I keep my bike in the higher gears (3rd gear in the front, 5-8 in the rear), and eventually my 7th gear in the rear completely cracked through and lost a tooth, so it would no longer propel the bike. My 8th gear in the rear was also having similar problems where if I pedaled too hard, it would slip. The bad news is my bike was stolen out of a friends backyard so these problems are not what this thread is about. -This is all useless information that only clouds the intent of the thread.

    Revised edition:

    I used to have a Trek 4300. I liked my trek a lot; it shifted perfect, was extremely quiet and the geometry of the bike was perfect. Unfortunately, it was recently stolen, so I'm on the market for a new bike. Since my last bike was the Trek 4300, I looked a model higher at the Trek 4500 Disc as an upgrade, especially since I want to get more involved in mountain biking. However, I'm concerned I'll have the same problems as my last bike. I believe the rear gear assembly is called the cassette. Is this a part that will inevitably wear out on any bike? Since the cassette was the only mechanical issue I had with my 4300, should I even worry about upgrading or should I look at cheaper bikes such as the Trek 3700?
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    What if i had said "my last bike would make these clunk noises and then wouldn't move, whats wrong?"
    I don't know if it was my riding style, poor maintenance or worn parts that causes my problems, more information can't hurt can it?
    Can you guys put aside the way i type and help me decide on a new bike, or am i wasting my time here?

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    From what I've seen, once you get past the department store crap into quality stuff, most of it will last for a good while as long as you keep it maintained. The higher quality stuff is usually lighter, operates a bit better, and is sometimes stronger, but depending on the part, can actually wear out faster because it is designed to be lighter weight. Get something quality and keep it maintained and you should be in business. That being said, suspension is an exception to this. Cheap suspension is just that, cheap. Get something quality that will last and is fixable when it does break. Some of the low end forks are basically use then replace when worn instead of being repairable. You will notice a difference between the cheapest bike at the LBS and a higher quality bike, but it really depends on what you are using it for. For fire roads and smooth single track occasionally, the cheap Trek will probably be fine. If you get into more serious stuff, you may find yourself wanting more.
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    Sentences and paragraphs rule! Samburger's revised edition is almost readable.

    Cassette wear rates will be similar on a 3700 and a 4500. Replace your chain before it's 12 1/8" pin-to-pin and your cassette will last longer. Go for the most bike you can afford!

    Get a good lock while you're at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
    Cassette wear rates will be similar on a 3700 and a 4500. Replace your chain before it's 12 1/8" pin-to-pin and your cassette will last longer. Go for the most bike you can afford!

    Get a good lock while you're at it.
    +1

    Go to Trek's website & find you local Trek dealer. They will almost guaranteed have the 4300, 4500, & whatever comes next in stock. Check out the prices & test ride the bikes, & take home the one that feels the best in your price range. And for future reference, the super secret FAQ sticky entitled "Please Read Before asking Questions: MTB FAQ" generally helps: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...stion-MTB-FAQ.
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