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    Out of curiosity...

    ... and subhuman can probably answer this one - but who exactly (i.e. manufacturer) makes the lefty "forks" on the scalpel, and are there different grades of travel or have a crazy dual-crown? If it's a 3rd party OEM and not c'dale itself, are there any other companies that make lefty bikes? Just wondering why they dont catch on.

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    I thoguht it was cdale?

    They don't catch on becuase of their proprietary nature. Same reason why mac has never caught on. Companies should realize to make some toooooo unique and hard to replace/fix/maintain always reduces the sale quantity.

    hubs are also rare and pretty expensive too...

    Thats my take on it.

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    oh, I also hated riding one. I don't like SC forks...to have a single stanchio, I was never so scared in my life

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    I thought there was one other company making lefty forks, Maelstrom knows who it is.

    As for who manufacters the lefty forks, it's cannondale themselves isn't it? I thought they had their own little factory and made their own forks.

    Yes there are different leftys with differing amounts of travel.

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    I forget the name. Some company in euro does them...

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    yeah i guessed it would be c'dale themselves - proprietary issues kinda explains the lack of market penetration - just like md players, disappointed that sony didnt market them well enough before, i think they're superior to mp3...

    anyway. re: strength on a single stanchion - my issue would be more the fact that c'dale makes it themselves. a speclialist fork manufacturer would be able to make it stronger and more reliable, c'dale can't be good at all things at the same time.

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    True...but you would be hard press to convince of strenght for heavy dudty jobs. Not without loosing the weight benefit

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    is it headshok?

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    sort of.

    here is a pic, I'm bad at describing stuff.

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    They are made by Cannondale/Manitou.
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    Lefty's use a type of Manitou damping "TPC" in the internals of their fork I gather the rest in then made by C'dale themsleve's.
    On Cannondale's new Prophet bike they've up'd the travel on their lefty Jake fork to 140mm! I wonder what it will handle like?
    I was also under the impression that C'dales Lefty forks were very good?

    A company call'd USE who make a one legged fork something like the USE s.u.b 100? It was an upsidedown design with a linkage setup at the bottom which was supposed to reduce dive under braking "antidive" or Stability. Under. Braking.

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    Isn't headshock the fork with the suspension built into the bottom of the headset (thats what it looks like)

    Lefty looks like the strut of a plane.

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    The Lefty Max is a 130mm travel lefty... thats the highest they make, i dont htink the jake is 140mm... i might be wrong though. The lefty is easy to fix... its just like your basic forks... its just... one fork

    the hubs are almost imposible to come by though, cannondale makes hubs for them, and Mavic has made a wheelset (front and rear) for the lefty but it costs almost over 700 with the rim tire and hubs (tubeless tires)

    The lefty has Headshock written on it on the bottom... illl try to take a pic for you, and cdale also makes a Headshok super fatty and some other models of that type... where the shock is in the top of the fork (not actualy in the forks)


    and the picture of the lefty above is a Carbon Ti ELO... they stopped making the ELO though becuase the seals leaked and shorted the electronics


    any more q's for me to tackle?
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    This is NOT my shock ( i wish it was ) but i was just showing you the Headshock on it

    That is on an older Carbon Lefty Ti ELO in SoBe Greeeeenn Ill give ya another pic of it too... It would match my bike perfectly but i dont have what he wants for it (almost 700-800 us)





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    My fork is a fork, your fork is a fork. Its has one stanchion ...

    That Ti one is sexy, but they still scare the crap out of me

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    why!?... ERRRRRR GET A CANNONDALE!!! please? I love cannondale. The lefty is by far one of the best shocks i have ever used in my opinion, and its lite. well, the carbon Ti one is
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    Crack-n-fail + Manipoo = DISASTER. Sorry kid I won't touch either of them.

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    Okay, thats it i have had enough of this bull**** Crank and Fail... PLEASE GOD tell me WHY you think they fail... mine has NEVER failed on me and I've had my bike for a month and i have ridden it almost EVERY day, unless its raining... and Manitou... i dont see whats wrong with them... i like fox better though

    My friend has had his c'dale for a year and a half and it never fails on him.... please god try to explain crank and fail now...
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    Watch your language boy.

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    i thought BS got stared... seriously... please explain how a c'dale is a Crank and Fail... have you ever ridden one?
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    Canyon-snail, Crack-n-fail etc. are all just pet names that Klin owners bestowed on the early Cannondale attempts to break into the mtn bike market. You should not take offence because your three-leg horse bears little resemblance to the rip off design that earned these names.

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    They have a reputation under abuse to break. We had a canondale dealer here a couple of years ago, and they, the following year, dumped canaondale. They couldn't afford to keep fixing all the warranty issues with those bikes on dh.

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    in the end - each to their own, no point getting worked up over it (esp over raiyn's crankiness )

    in any case, part of the reason why i asked about lefty models with varying travel was the strength issue - i can see that lefty's can still hold well over xc and maybe a bit more technical stuff (especially since your REAR wheel takes the first hit when doing a drop) but just how much can they take and more importantly how much do the manufacturers THINK they can take? as always, the strength problem is in the hub's connection with the suspension "arm". for example producing a 140mm travel lefty indicates a confidence (however misplaced - not debated here) that it can take so much beating etc etc.

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    It isn't personal experience. Its looking down at them when djing or doing drops. Seeing that stanchion missing scares the crap out of me.,..

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    The new lefty's seem pretty impresive (models for 2005) i think I'm going to pick me up a Carbon Speed DLR2 eventualy...


    and Raiyn... sorry
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