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Old 10-28-04, 11:20 PM   #1
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I was wondering what, in all your opinions, is a good brake set (Disk) for Dj and Urban, and if 8'' are good for those two things. (I would like 8'' rotors, since they look so friggin' cool). I was looking at the Hayes HFX 9 HD or what ever... maybe the Hayes HFX Mag, but those are allittle pricey. I am looking into the price range from $200-$250. I thought I saw some HFX Mags for $179 for the pair, but that seems alittle cheap...maybe I was day dreaming.
Any way, thanks for your opinions.

EDIT: $200-$250 for both

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if you can find a pair of hfx-mags then get those over the hfx-nines. less problems...

if you can't find them for cheap though, the nines should be fine with a few little modifications - first of which would be to loc-tite the adjustment screws for the levers so they don't back out on you, causing your brakes to feel really spongy. second would be to put a couple strips of duct tape over the little plastic plug on the master cylinder so that it doesn't come popping out during a run, spilling your brake fluid everywhere. these are the couple of things i've done to my nines and they work just fine.
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I. (I would like 8'' rotors, since they look so friggin' cool).
EDIT: $200-$250 for both
Check with your fork manufacturer to see if they will warranty or recommend their forks with 8" discs. Also from another point of view, look to using bolt through axle with this size disc instead of QR.

I fitted 8" hope Mono M4's to a Tandem and these are awesome, but for peace of mind, also fitted new forks with the 20mm bolt through axle.
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Thanks for advice guys
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If I were you I'd by the HFX Mag from Jensonusa, i think they're 145$ or something. I know it's 40$ over budget, but it's worth it. You should get 8" front and 6" rear. I know it looks cool. But it's not worth it for the rear wheel. How many times have you gone down a hill and said to yourself. Damn this 6" isn't locking enough, I need a 8". That and the 6" is lighter, a little less than a quarter pound.
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i like hope breaks. i have a hope mini mono on the back and an m4 on the front... intense stoping power. ps. they also make a 6 piston break with titanium pistons!!
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What about 7''. I was just at jenson USA, and saw some Avid Mech's. I don't really want the hassle of hydro's (I heard they can be a pain) so I looked at the avids. I might get 2 7'' or one 8'' and one 6''. I (if I got those) would get the Avid Speed Dial SL ($50 for pair) and the Avid full metal jacket disk cable and housing. (That is all I need right? just levers, the disks and caliber thingy, and the cable and housing?).
All that comes out to about $233 or so.
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You dont need the full metal jacket housing, and its a pain to setup anyway. I was going to say, if your running it for urban, id just get the Avid mechs. The Avid Flak jacket are nice, or just the normal Avid housing, dont need anything super. Id recommend the SD7s for levers though....
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SD7...The speed dial seven? Oh, and I'm just curious, but why not the SDSL's? ( are they more XC stuff?)
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I have BB7's with 6" rotors on my bike and it stops like I've hit a brick wall. I'm quite satisfied, I must say. Then again, I'm a lighter rider (130 lbs) and my bike is about average (30 lbs) and probably lighter than some of the DJ bikes around. Still, I'd highly recommend the BB7's. I love mine.
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What about 7''. I was just at jenson USA, and saw some Avid Mech's. I don't really want the hassle of hydro's (I heard they can be a pain) so I looked at the avids. I might get 2 7'' or one 8'' and one 6''. I (if I got those) would get the Avid Speed Dial SL ($50 for pair) and the Avid full metal jacket disk cable and housing. (That is all I need right? just levers, the disks and caliber thingy, and the cable and housing?).
All that comes out to about $233 or so.
i don't know about others, but i haven't had any real issues with my hydros - other than the occasional rubbing and squeeling. i did my reading before buying them, so i knew what to expect in terms of problems. i did those quick fixes i mentioned above as soon as i was able and never really had to worry about things since.

i'd take a good set of hydros over mechs any day (although i would like to try out a set of avids just to see what all the hype's about).
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The reason im saying to go with mechs over the hydros for street and DJing is just because of everything that can happen. Also, do you really need hydros for either? My Avids worked better than my friends HFX-9s, had more power too. 45lb bike with a 165lb rider........stopped on a dime, but still had modulation. Ive said this before, but ill say it again. Hydros can kink, or the line can snap......and its expensive for something you dont need. If you DH, or FR where you need precise braking, then I can see it. But, just to have a set of easy mechs that you can repair yourself, dont need a $20 bleed, just a $3 cable, are much easier. DONT get the Hayes mechs though, I had to swap my front Avid for a Hayes, and o my god. I can jam 4 fingers on the break lever, and yank, and barely stop.......takes me about 10 feet. Avids setup right are great brakes.
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DONT get the Hayes mechs though, I had to swap my front Avid for a Hayes, and o my god. I can jam 4 fingers on the break lever, and yank, and barely stop.......takes me about 10 feet. Avids setup right are great brakes.
yeah, hayes mechs are crap. it was the same for me... the brakes would "slow" me down, but not stop me. i couldn't even get my self to endo jamming on the front - even with 4 fingers. just because of how bad they were, i relegated myself to dirtjumping only until i got my hydros. i just didn't feel safe trail riding with those brakes.
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You owe it to yourself to try the Avid mechs.....the only thing Hayes HFX-9s have over them is the hydrolic "feel"
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The reason im saying to go with mechs over the hydros for street and DJing is just because of everything that can happen. Also, do you really need hydros for either? My Avids worked better than my friends HFX-9s, had more power too. 45lb bike with a 165lb rider........stopped on a dime, but still had modulation. Ive said this before, but ill say it again. Hydros can kink, or the line can snap......and its expensive for something you dont need. If you DH, or FR where you need precise braking, then I can see it. But, just to have a set of easy mechs that you can repair yourself, dont need a $20 bleed, just a $3 cable, are much easier. DONT get the Hayes mechs though, I had to swap my front Avid for a Hayes, and o my god. I can jam 4 fingers on the break lever, and yank, and barely stop.......takes me about 10 feet. Avids setup right are great brakes.
I agree with this guy ...

Although, if you don't have standard levers you may have to buy them which, at least up here, makes the hfx9's a cheaper purchase.
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You owe it to yourself to try the Avid mechs.....the only thing Hayes HFX-9s have over them is the hydrolic "feel"
And even then they don't feel good. I tried a set last week. Crap. Stop or go...didn't have any of the usual hayes modulation. I am pretty disapointed in them. But I guess for the pricepoint they would be hard to beat.
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Mael, still interested in my brakes? Yeah you don't need Hydraulic brakes for DJ/Street. Just overkill. Someone mentioned hopes m4/m6 (don't remember, too lazy to look) Definalty no! Overkill to the third power. I have the Mags and they are much better then the Nines. Get avid mechs. 8" front 6" rear or dual 6". No need for dual 8". I ride DH with 8" front 6" rear. Its enough trust me.
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Coming from somebody that said they wanted to get dual 8''......and the hope mono4s and 6s arent that powerful, they just have really realy really good modulation.
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Mael, still interested in my brakes? Yeah you don't need Hydraulic brakes for DJ/Street. Just overkill. Someone mentioned hopes m4/m6 (don't remember, too lazy to look) Definalty no! Overkill to the third power. I have the Mags and they are much better then the Nines. Get avid mechs. 8" front 6" rear or dual 6". No need for dual 8". I ride DH with 8" front 6" rear. Its enough trust me.
Not sure. I am going to try buying a hope m4 for my left hand for my dh bike. I need the extra power for my missing fingers. That only leaves me one brake to buy. I don't need a set. So not likely.
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For urban/street. Rear rim brakes is a must, along with a brake booster. For street, I guess he may mean something like trials. Disks will rip the tabs off your frame if you back hop. I heard it from trials-online.com. Hell, all the trials pros Ive seen use rear rim brakes with a booster.

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I dont know why, but in Kranked 5 it looks like Leech is usin discs.
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The reason im saying to go with mechs over the hydros for street and DJing is just because of everything that can happen. Also, do you really need hydros for either? My Avids worked better than my friends HFX-9s, had more power too. 45lb bike with a 165lb rider........stopped on a dime, but still had modulation. Ive said this before, but ill say it again. Hydros can kink, or the line can snap......and its expensive for something you dont need. If you DH, or FR where you need precise braking, then I can see it. But, just to have a set of easy mechs that you can repair yourself, dont need a $20 bleed, just a $3 cable, are much easier. DONT get the Hayes mechs though, I had to swap my front Avid for a Hayes, and o my god. I can jam 4 fingers on the break lever, and yank, and barely stop.......takes me about 10 feet. Avids setup right are great brakes.
Very well put. Also remember should you break a lever with mechs you can go to any mom and pop bike shop and pick up a cheap V-brake lever to use for the rest of the day.
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I dont know why, but in Kranked 5 it looks like Leech is usin discs.
Smart ass hahaha...

Didn't you know he doesn't do trials...he manifesto's instead
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Seriously though, after I thoought about it, it sounds like it could be done. I'll bet it has happened before as well. Use rim brakes. With boosters.
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The original poster never said whether or not he's a heavy rider or not. Chances are, even 6" rotors would do perfectly fine for him as long as he's not 250+. My 6" rotors stop me on a dime, so I'd personally see no reason to go with 8" rotors for myself.
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