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Old 11-09-04, 09:06 PM   #1
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Looking to purchase a new cyclocomputer for my mountain bike (preferably wireless). I don't want to spend too much. Anyone have any suggestions?

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Old 11-09-04, 10:45 PM   #2
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It isn't wireless, but I like my Cateye Astrale 8. It has rear wheel speed and cadence sensors, and the wiring really doesn't look that bad IMO. Got it for a bit over $30, not too bad.
I would recommend that if you weren't concerned about wires.
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I dont find wires a problem at all if the magnet is on the front fork not the back. Cateye make great computers, i've got one, and they come in different price ranges too. So you could easily buy it on a budget. I reccommend cateye and your LBS or any bike shop should definatley stock them, they're a great world wide computer
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Old 11-09-04, 11:57 PM   #4
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A computer on a Mountain bike? Much less a wireless computer? Why bother? It'll just end up lost or broken. Save the computer for the road.
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I've had this discussion before somewhere but how can you loose a cyclocomputer???

How do they just fall off???
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I've had this discussion before somewhere but how can you loose a cyclocomputer???

How do they just fall off???
They get shaken off the mount. They get snagged by tree limbs. They get smashed when you crash. I've got no problem with them on road, but if I had a nickel for every computer that I've found on the side of a trail I wouldn't be rich, but I'd be able to buy a case of decent beer.
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I can't say I see that much of a point in having one for off-road riding as well... However, on the road, it's nice to know speed and distance. I'm not sure if I want one that has cadence. I suppose it's nice to know how fast your pedals are spinning, but doesn't seem terribly important.
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I can't say I see that much of a point in having one for off-road riding as well... However, on the road, it's nice to know speed and distance. I'm not sure if I want one that has cadence. I suppose it's nice to know how fast your pedals are spinning, but doesn't seem terribly important.
Never said I had a problem with them on road. I just think they're useless trail litter off road.
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I know this... I was agreeing with you
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I don't ride in a lot of tight areas for it to get knocked off, and I suppose as to crashing.. can't really say you don't do a lot of that, you never know, heh.
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some people like to compare their performance to the computer and base their fitness/improvement level from that. I just go till I'm snotting. Next time I make it farther faster before I'm all snotty.
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I take my computer off road, but the track is good enough not to destroy it. Very helpfull using it to measure track distance, time and speeds down the track. It depends on how you look at the statistics, some would find them useless, others would have a use for them.
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I admit that I don't always look at my computer when riding offroad although since it's a FlightDeck, I'll use it for the gear display. I find it most useful when I'm on those epic offroad rides and I'm following some sort of map. I use the trip distance and avg speeds to estimate time and distances.



I've always had a computer for offroad riding. I wish CatEye still made the CC-8000 ATC.



That was the toughest computer I ever had but I've also managed to launch it into the bushes in the past. Luckily I was able to retrieve it. My FlightDeck has also been through quite a few crashes and is still going strong however. For an offroad computer, you might want to look at the CatEye Enduro line. I think they're up to the Enduro 8 now.
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some people like to compare their performance to the computer and base their fitness/improvement level from that. I just go till I'm snotting. Next time I make it farther faster before I'm all snotty.
The problem is relative measuring.
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Trail 1 - 6km takes 3.5 hours with an elevation gain of 2200 ft (I forget the exact ft) and super Tech. My rpms remained low and I had to torque/hike due to difficulty.
trail 2 - 20km takes same time but is more xc oriented and far less tech (but still a real trail)

All the computer will do is piss me off because it tells me I suck on trail one and am a god on trail 2. I am a numbers guy but in this case, numbers would do more to frsutrate then motivate. And actually 1.5 years ago took a sledge hammer to my cyclometer and have been having more fun than ever. Mountain biking doesn't facilitate the number measurement of a cyclometer of road biking imo (unless you ride similar trails all the time that is)

I wouldn't mind one strictly as a heartrate monitor and possibly RPM so I can figure out where and why I don't spin as much as possible. But beyond that, they really annoy me
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and they're absolutely useless in the dark for those of you who love to right at night.
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Old 12-10-04, 03:47 AM   #17
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Yet another example of why computers shouldn't be on MTB's
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...927#post778927
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haha... beautiful. I agree that on a trail they seem rather useless. I always thought true off-road riding wasn't about how far you went or how long you were gone, but how much fun you had and how dirty you got.. and maybe how much blood you lost. As such, I don't think I'd be too interested in a cycle computer for off-road use. Maelstrom did make a good point in that it'd be nice to check your cadence and make improvements in your spin technique. One thing nice about the Astrale is that you can reverse the cadence/speed and make the cadence read out on top so it's more noticeable.
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It isn't wireless, but I like my Cateye Astrale 8. It has rear wheel speed and cadence sensors, and the wiring really doesn't look that bad IMO. Got it for a bit over $30, not too bad.
I would recommend that if you weren't concerned about wires.
This is the one I'm getting, and the one Cryogenic has.
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What do you need it to do? I agree with most of the folks, that a basic wired model is all you need for MTBing. If its your only bike and you use it on road for cardio training, etc., for example, you may want some other features at the risk of having a more expensive computer to break. I use a Cateye Enduro 2 I got for around $15-16 on sale (newer model line is out now). Seems durable, weather resistant, and if it breaks, not big deal. The only thing that's really important to me is distance, its a nice navigational aid for determining where you are during those longer rides in unfamiliar territory.

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The Enduro 8 is out now and shouldn't cost you more than $30 anywhere. Online would probably be cheaper. I got the Astrale 8 because I wanted the cadence feature. I paid $40 for my Astrale @ the LBS. Get the Enduro if you don't need/want the cadence feature.
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Maelstrom did make a good point in that it'd be nice to check your cadence and make improvements in your spin technique. .
If you've got time to do that then you aren't riding hard enough. Computers belong on road bikes.
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I run a cyclocomp that has an HRM integrated on both of my bikes (road and mountain - swap the comp, reprogram for tire size - takes all of 30 seconds)

The computer is a Sport Instruments SI90-HR. Primarily, I leave it set on speed and heart rate and watch myself. I've hit 202 for heart rate a few times, and I don't really like doing that... HRM keeps me from doing it often. Speed just to be on the safe side. I'm not too worried about it, but when I'm coming up on an area that I know is often tagged, I slow down, but remain as fast as I can without worrying (trail speed limits in my area are 15mph)

Comp retails $120, got it for $60... seems like it's still going for that last I checked.

It has many functions, and lacks only cadence. Everything's wireless. Mine is mounted to the center of my stem, so below and behind any potential impact position. It hasn't been flung in any of my 3 crashes (though I did lose the heart rate strap in the ER) and the mount seems very secure. It mounts in from front to rear, so an impact would push it down in to the cradle rather than slip it out. I'm not really worried about losing it.
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see my previous post
One point of MTBing (for those who don't race) is to GET AWAY from the techie crap. If you'd rather be a slave to a chip - by all means.
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haha... beautiful. I agree that on a trail they seem rather useless. I always thought true off-road riding wasn't about how far you went or how long you were gone, but how much fun you had and how dirty you got.. and maybe how much blood you lost. As such, I don't think I'd be too interested in a cycle computer for off-road use. Maelstrom did make a good point in that it'd be nice to check your cadence and make improvements in your spin technique. One thing nice about the Astrale is that you can reverse the cadence/speed and make the cadence read out on top so it's more noticeable.
I thought you said you haven't taken your bike off-road yet?

Raiyn: If you're riding easy trails I see absolutely no reason why you shouldn't have a computer. Easy trails=no drops, hucking or any free ride aspects. Strictly XC and your computer shouldn't fall off. When I hit the rougher trails, I'll take my computer off but occasionally I like to take my mtb for a road/xc trail affair and I want to see at what speed and how far I go. Not for training purposes or anything, but just because it's neat information to know.

The Enduro 8 is the Cat Eye Off road computer and does not offer cadence, heart beat, wireless or other advanced features but it does have, average speed, distance, and current speed and time and that's all I need.
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