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Old 07-03-11, 05:15 AM   #1
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Honda Trail Pilot parts list

Hi Folks, been a while . . .
Am looking to restore a Honda Trail Pilot MTB.
I need a list of parts used on such a MTB.
If you have photos of parts, that would be a bonus.
Thanking you guys in advance for your contributions.
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Is this the bike ?



If it is, I think that you'd be better off saving your money and putting it towards buying a better bike.

I don't know why Honda allows it's name to be put on a bike like this.
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Yeah, that's the bike. I know it's a cheepie; I received it as a basket case; I have $3.00 in it. The replacement wheels were free from a local bike shop; the rest just needed alignment. I do need a rear derailleur; the original was mangled. I fixed the derailleur - sort of - and the chain skips in gears 4, 5, 6; works in gears 1, 2, 3.
It's a loaner for lifeguards, who are financial slaves. They work as lifeguards at a local pool for $10/hour. They come from Philippines, Russia, Ukrane, Romania, etc. Just trying to brighten up their life.
If you check the bikes in my signature, you know it's not for me. : )
Thanks for caring . . .

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...and the chain skips in gears 4, 5, 6; works in gears 1, 2, 3.
Chain and cassette (or freewheel?) are worn out - you'll need to replace both.

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Chain and cassette (or freewheel?) are worn out - you'll need to replace both.
Re: #3, [I do need a rear derailleur; the original was mangled.]
The wheels in the tensioner have too much play. I suspect the sloppy wheels do not affect the large cogs, 'cause the chain can't get atop the large interior cogs in order to "skip". This is not the case with the smaller cogs, which do cause the skipping.
A new derailleur should cure the chain skip.
I have looked at the chain - link by link - it's OK; the cogs are OK, too.
Nice to hear your opinion. Now about the parts list request.
Does anyone know where I can get a P/L for this cheepie?

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If the chain is jumping teeth on one cog (as opposed to ghost shifting or chattering between different gears), it is typically caused by chain/cassette wear, not the derailleur.

Measure the chain for "stretch". All bicycle chains are 1/2" pitch - that is, the rollers are 1/2" apart. With the chain under tension there should be less than 1/8" of stretch in 12" of chain. Any more than that, the chain is junk. Unless the cassette/freewheel has been replaced more recently it will have corresponding wear that you won't necessarily see, but will cause problems if you only replace the chain.

You keep talking about this "parts list". It would seem to me your parts list is (according to you) a rear derailleur. I'm suggesting you may also need a cassette/freewheel and chain. What else does the bike need? Because if you replace much more you will very quickly approach the cost of a comparable new bike.

I've made some suggestions in an effort to be helpful, you may take it or leave it, as you wish. If you already know what the remedies are then I'm not sure why you posted to begin with.

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I'm not sure why you posted to begin with.
The original post: "I need a list of parts used on such a MTB.
If you have photos of parts, that would be a bonus."
I really understand chain-skip, chain-wear and all that I know that cogs and chains need to be replaced at the same time. I never wanted this thread to get hung-up on the chain-skip; I should have never mentioned that.
I'm just after a list of parts, e.g.: the derailleur is a Shimano TY-05, which I can obtain, new, in-box, for $15.
I need help with other parts, e.g.: brake levers, crank set, etc.
See http://www.jim.bike123.com/Hnda/DetailH.html

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I guess I'm still confused as to what your objective here is.
All brake levers have 7/8" (22mm) bar clamps - just get the cheapest ones you can find.
You are replacing the crankset because?
I recently bought 2 brand new Shimano Alivio rear derailleurs for $15 each, so a Tourney RD for that is no bargain.
With just the parts you have mentioned (unless you're getting them for free or next to nothing) you will be close to the price of this, which is essentially a brand new version of your Honda bike.
All I'm trying to say is, if you can scrape together the parts you need to rebuild this thing then that's great, but if it were me I wouldn't invest more than maybe $30 total (and that would be stretching it) Those kind of bikes can be had all day long on Craigslist for $35-$40.
Again, not trying to shoot down your project, I really am just trying to be helpful.

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[QUOTE=scyclops;12881792]I guess I'm still confused as to what your objective here is.
(unless you're getting them for free or next to nothing)
I am a retired engineer; I am closely connected to the owner of a bike shop, who gives me
free parts for odd jobs I do for him.
My objective, as stated in step #1 is to acquire a parts list of the Honda Trail Pilot.
I understand this is a $200 bike; some places I've seen it for $98.
Money or cost is not an issue; enjoying the task is everything.
Either you can assist me with a parts list or, please, depart.
Thanks for your kind advise, although, misdirected.
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Holy passive-aggressive, Batman!
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Hey That Guy,
Thanks for the quote; you must have run into scyclops before . . . what a comeback!
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Originally Posted by scyclops: "If somebody disses your bike, just tell them that they're more than welcome to buy you a more expensive one any time they'd like."
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Note: This isn't craigslist, beaverstuff. Please quit posting duplicate threads in hopes of getting more - - or more-favorable - - responses. It just may be that nobody cares about your quest to 'restore' a POS.
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Note: This isn't craigslist, beaverstuff. Please quit posting duplicate threads in hopes of getting more - - or more-favorable - - responses. It just may be that nobody cares about your quest to 'restore' a POS.
No wonder I've had trouble selling my couch...
I've been on the wrong website the whole time!
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No wonder I've had trouble selling my couch...
I've been on the wrong website the whole time!
I imagine the staging in your pics may have been a contributing factor as well . . .

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The original post: "I need a list of parts used on such a MTB.
If you have photos of parts, that would be a bonus."
Sorry beaverstuff. The bike's not listed on BikePedia.com, the best semi-reliable database of which parts got hung on which bike. As a result finding out what the stock parts were would be nigh on impossible.

Just shoot for cheapest, most reliable, compatible parts.
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Sorry beaverstuff. The bike's not listed on BikePedia.com, the best semi-reliable database of which parts got hung on which bike. As a result finding out what the stock parts were would be nigh on impossible.
Just shoot for cheapest, most reliable, compatible parts.
Thanks for the sanity - a constructive response. Thanks, truly . . .
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This thread is done - thanks all . . .
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Re: scyclops' multiple suggestions

Folks,
I purchased a Xundah, YD-H15, rear derailleur for $11.95 from Ebay (including shipping) and the chain no longer skips. This derailleur is made in China; those folks make many bicycles. My wife and I went to China in '07. In a large department store, (Take a large Walmart and put four of them - one atop the other - awesome) and spotted a full-size bike, with fenders and a basket for under $20.00US. I took several looks to make sure I was not looking at the wrong tag. Gosh . . .
Regarding the first gent's response: I think I can afford to spend twelve dollars to make a bike work for another rider.
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