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Old 11-26-04, 08:13 PM   #1
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Why's everyone so down on XC?

So I went for a ride today on a XC trail today, I did about 15 miles and sure, there weren't any jumps, and the biggest drops were about a foot, but it was fun. The downhills are fast, the uphills are a challenge, the scenery is nice. Everyone on this forum seems to real big into freeriding and the whole "can this bike that I can't afford handle 8.6 foot drops?" urban poseur stuff (Ok some people do urban that aren't poseurs, I just had to make fun of some people ), but XC is still fun and challenging. Sure, jumps and drops are exciting, but most of the trails around here are mostly XC anyway, and they can be a lot of fun too.

Anyway, I had a good ride, did about 15 miles alongside a lake. Stopped at the end of the loop and watched a boat go by towing a wakeboarder. I thought "It's almost December and he's wakeboarding? Isn't that cold?" Then I realized I was wearing shorts... I love California.
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Old 11-26-04, 08:16 PM   #2
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Because many fat fuchs on pig bikes couldn't climb 1,000 vertical,, let alone 4,000 vertical, if their life depended upon it.

It's a good thing though, since there is a ton of technical riding that is unreachable by "freeriders" and "downhillers" because they can't get a shuttle ride to the trails.

p.s. All you need in Norcal is a wetsuit and you can ride (the other kind) all year around.



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XC is all I ride--I never noticed that everyone's down on it. If there's a jump on the trail, I take it; if there's a climb, I ride it-I try not to worry about what everyone else is doin'.

It does bother me that I didn't ride when I was in Cali(Monterey to be exact)--wasn't even into biking then. Did a lot of nocturnal bodysurfing, tho--esp. @ Carmel. That was sweet!
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but XC is still fun and challenging. Sure, jumps and drops are exciting, but most of the trails around here are mostly XC anyway, and they can be a lot of fun too.
Well, you have my sympathy... or admiration... or envy or whatever. I'm also a self-proclaimed XC geek. I prefer XC to other types of riding mainly because it gets me to more places. Sure, I love the really technical stuff and the big jumps and drops too (can't go really big though with only 4" of suspension travel) but I much prefer fast rolling terrain with a little sprinkling of the twisties. At the end of the day, it's all about just having fun.
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I ride whatever. I just don't have a dedicated xc bike, and usually I ride xc to get to a section I wanna ride. But there is definately xc

But even for xc, I still had really strong parts, reason, I am a fat ass hack. I also can't stop myself trying stuff, so strong parts helps if I am riding xc and see a temping jump/drop etc...
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I haven't heard anyone be down on XC on this forum. I'm an XC rider. I like getting out and doing long rides and seeing new scenery, and a lot of the XC trails I ride have some good drops and technical challenges if you're up for it.
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I know most of us are UP on dh and freeriding..just the nature of the beast I suppose
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I know most of us are UP on dh and freeriding..just the nature of the beast I suppose
This is the most peaceful cohabitation of FR and XC anywhere on the web probably. Most other forums are warzones between the disciplines.
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Old 11-26-04, 09:25 PM   #10
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Hahaha...generally yeah...I spend some time on a few other forums. Ironically where the kids play...nsmb.com gives tonnes of respect to xc guys, most still don't do it, but they understand the shore wouldn't exist with xc (seeing as an hour up the mountain is required for 30min down haha) Its a balance. I enjoy being on my bike, although, xc (anything pure endurance) gives me issues.
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XC ROX YOU FREE RIDING NOOBS!!!!

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I do basically strictly free ride. Small drops, small air here and there, but xc is where it's at brotha. My city has like 80 miles or something total of XC Track (which is basically just gravel track) but some sections of it probably like 10 miles in total are twisty and mtb grade trails!
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Like others have said, I don't think that people are down on xc, just prefer other types of riding over it. I love riding xc. I have a freeride bike and an xc bike. The freeride is fun but I definately like xc a lot more. Freeriding is growing so rapidly right now though that it may seem that nobody cares about xc out there anymore but don't worry, the xc geeks are still out there in full force.
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Old 11-26-04, 11:16 PM   #13
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I like XC, but I don't have a great opportunity to ride XC, and I must ride, so I gravitate towards FR/trials practice, which can be done nearby.
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I do a little of both, light freeride and XC. My poor XC bike with 4x4 suspension gets beat to death when I try and do any jumps/drops
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Old 11-27-04, 01:49 AM   #15
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I race DH and do freeride, but I have to do XC to get to the trail heads most of the time, mind you on a DH rig it kind of sucks. Sometimes it's just fun to go for a nice long ride and not care about drops and jumps and speed though.
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O.K everyone together "It's all good".Heck, I rode full steel no susp.on thursday and today 5&5for a long trail ride with some 3 and 4 footers.I saw a fella riding down the road on a Bighit the other day,now there's an over the top road bike.I'll have to agree,no xc,fr,dh bashin here.
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Is free riding basically stairs curbs benches that sort of thing?

I never really understood it...
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Its really not that hard.
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Freeriding is like a mix of everything. XC, downhill, urban, BMX. Kind of hard to explain.
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Freeriding is like a mix of everything. XC, downhill, urban, BMX. Kind of hard to explain.

but but but...all mighty maelstrom said it wasn't really that hard!

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ITs not hard to explain. You have shore riding - self explanatory, street/slopestyle - self explanatory, and balls to the wall go big - self explanatory. All 3 in any combination work.

The only reason xc might be included is because shore riders do a lot of pedalling. There is no lift on the north shore so they pedal up the mountain to the trails. XC is a required evil of the beauty of freeriding
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Old 11-27-04, 12:17 PM   #22
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XC = lycra under camo-shorts.

Freeride = everything you can do on a mtb except XC.

I mostly ride XC, fake it 'till I make it downhill.
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ok, ok, not XC then. But everything else is good?
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Dh is kind of specific too. Uses a different bike, I suppose similar types of terrain but the purpose isn't to be stylish or produce tricks. It is a pure speed thing. Where a freerider takes a spot and makes it more difficult by adding tricks or stunts, a downhiller looks for the best way to make a fast line through the rough stuff. Completely different mentality.
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dang it. So I guess freeride is a whole different kind of animal. I guess my style of riding isn't really light freeride/aggro XC so much as it's ultra-light downhill/aggro XC. No fancy stunts or jumps it's all about how fast I can go.
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