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Old 10-08-11, 06:37 PM   #1
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trek 4100

Im not sure if this is the right forum but... I decided that I need alittle larger frame for my mtb so I scored a 2004 trek 4100 frame for $35 on ebay.

it has a ball burnished finish and about a quarter of the frame is painted. visually it needs help so Im going to strip the decals and paint, refinish/polish, but this raises a few questions:

first, whats the best way to remove decals, it does not seem like I can just peal up a corner w/ my fingernail?

next, am I right to assume that under the paint the frame is ballburnished like the rest of it? whats the best way to strip it, Im thinking chemicals rather than physical friction (mediablast, sand paper, wire wheel...).

and finally the headtube has a very slight flare at the top and bottom, about 1/4 inch. does tis use a semi integrated or fully integrated headset. thanx


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The whole frame is clear-coated so that's why you can't peel the decals off. If you hit it with paint stripper the decals will come right off.

It takes a standard headset, completely un-integrated.

Which dimension of the 6000 was too small? Bar height I'm guessing. If so just put some risers on that thing. The 4100 has a WAY shorter top tube I'm pretty sure so it's gonna feel smaller in the reach department, unless you got the 21 or 22.5 and your saddle would be slammed on those.

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I bought the 6000 in 98, 16 inch frame, I rode it for 6 years then I had to take a break from biking (car accident) when I got back into it I bought a roadie (55cm) now I feel really cramped on the 16. I have the post jacked up to the minimum insertion but I still want more. the 4100 is 18.5, im 5 10
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They do make longer seatposts than that, also.

The 4100 might work for you though. Just warning you that a lowend 18" Trek Al MTB frame from the year 1999 has a top tube that's about 3cm shorter than one from the year 1995, so even though you're going up a size your reach is going to be about the same. I'm going to guess approx. 56cm effective top tube on both.

Oh, and there's no 18.5" 4100 in 2004. There's 13, 16, 18, 19.5, 21, 22.5"

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then hopefully that will work out nicely. I think my reach is good I just cant straighten my leg out fully during the pedal stroke. what would you think about the frame finish under the paint, ballburnished??
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No clue. My guess is that it would be the same finish as the rest of the frame since it's such a small painted area, but you never know.
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thanx les
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