Well, I've found the pair of wheels that I want and it looks as though they're available from two different places for a really good price. WTB Laser Disc Hubs + black Mavic 717 disc rims + DT double butted spokes (black), alloy or brass nipples. Colorado Cyclist has them for $349 and Mtn High Cyclery sells them for about $370. I called and talked to Larry and he was pretty pleasant and quite knowledgeable to say the least. Which leads me to two questions. Has anyone here had any experience with his wheels? I would assume they're pretty well built, but I haven't heard anyone say yay or nay on that. He did tell me that he's pretty well covered up and I probably wouldn't see my wheels until the beginning of the year. I'm also planning on getting an Ultegra 12-27 road cassette to go with them as most of my riding is commuting/urban and I don't need (or even use) my granny gear. Larry gave me a price of $370 for the wheels, $15 for shipping and $45 for the Ultegra cassette... Colorado Cylist is quoting $349.99 for the wheels, $49.99 for the cassette, $24.75 for shipping. The price difference comes out to $5 more to get them from Larry. So basically, what would you guys do in this situation? Anyone had any experience with either company to give me some sort of basis on which to base my decision.