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Old 12-18-04, 10:54 AM   #1
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Electric assist mtn bike.

http://www.tidalforce.com/products/m750/specs.html

Check this out, I ran across a guy on one of these on the trail, very odd.
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Old 12-18-04, 11:04 AM   #2
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Wow, seen alot of Bikes with Engine assist that thats pretty cool...
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Old 12-18-04, 08:24 PM   #3
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dude, thats awesome
i want one
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Good friggin' god! It's a bicycle...no motors, gosh darn it!
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I saw a similar one in The Sharper Image once.. stupid idea... if you want a motorcycle get a motorcycle. If you want a bicycle, get a bicycle.
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You tell em TRD. Here i was thinking folks half of the folks who bicycle do it for the physical benefit as well as the fun.
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That looks like one of the best designs I have seen. It would be really great for some people, like if they want to get around by bike but can't do it otherwise. I'm not particularly interested in it.
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OK if you want power go moped or whatever...they're basically taking one of the last few physical things you can do in this world and strapping a motor onto it.
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Haha, well...that's pretty much how the motorcycle was invented. Bikes will never be eliminated by motorcycles. The people who would buy that likely wouldn't have bought a normal bike.
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It has three strikes againt it.
  1. The frame is made by Montague. The people who brought you the Hummer folding bike. Which means the frame and components are utter Hundescheicse
  2. Heavy as a MOFO The Hummer is heavy as sin anyway think those motors make it lighter?
  3. Not worth the powder to blow it back to Hell. Anybody who'd ride this on a trail is screaming to be put out of their obvious misery.
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What about people who have a physical handicap, surely this bike would be better for them.... The bike wasnt built for technical steep climbs or single track , ithink the bike was built for somebody that wants to have that feeling of riding off road, but maybe arent able to because of a handicap, this bike was meant for fireroads, double track and generally wide, untechnical trails for a beginner rider.
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bicycle menas human powered. If somebody has a handicap they can ride a moped, they have those little electric scooter things too.
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Im sorry, but I dont wanna run into some handicap, or geezer on the trail, and have them wiz by me at 20mph on a "mtb" thats really a moped.
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Im sorry, but I dont wanna run into some handicap, or geezer on the trail, and have them wiz by me at 20mph on a "mtb" thats really a moped.

No offence DJ rider, but i doubt very much if they care what you think, as long as their having fun... i doubt if their bothered, i think it's a good idea... thats my opinion
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Old 12-20-04, 12:16 AM   #16
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What about people who have a physical handicap, surely this bike would be better for them.... The bike wasnt built for technical steep climbs or single track , ithink the bike was built for somebody that wants to have that feeling of riding off road, but maybe arent able to because of a handicap, this bike was meant for fireroads, double track and generally wide, untechnical trails for a beginner rider.
There are plenty of other frames that would work just as well if not better for this conversion. The Monatgue folder is a straight up piece of hundscheisse. Unfortunately the people who have a legitamate use for such a bike as this aren't the primary marketing target. It's the overweight couch potato who thinks he's Brian Lopes who'll buy this boat anchor. On the flip side, if I saw someone with a legitimate reason to own one on the trail I'd probably start a friendly conversation with the person and be polite about his scooter.
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Sure looks like it would be fun for a while, than it would just get kind of old.

The Fork looks suspicious...
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Now I realize why I didn't want to look at this thread. The kickstand was all I needed to see....
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I guess I should add a little more to my story....

The trail is somewhat technical, an agressive 3 mile climb with some challenging switchbacks.
The trail is not too bad right out of the parking lot, and that is where I encountered him.
He was an older gentleman, very nice guy. He said that this was too much trail for him and the bike, he had never been out here before and was headed back to the car.

We chatted briefly, as he asked to the quickest, easiest way back to the lot. He stated that he got the bike after his open heart surgery, as he really enjoyed biking in the past, but his endurance was impacted by his surgery, he thought that this elect assit would allow him to get out and continue to do something he really enjoyed.

He mostly rode a cruiser type bike on one of the many paved trails in the Denver area, and that is where he focuses on riding, the trail ride was a first event for him.

While I enjoy riding and currently can do so under my own power, I smiled as I saw him ride away, still doing what he enjoyed.

After riding for over 25 years as an adult, I realize that as I have gotten older, I have lost a bit, not as fast, can't climb as quick, but I still ride. If this bike helps someone to continue to ride, then I am all for it.
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I recently added electric power assist to my mountain bike after suffering a broken femur from a fall off my bike. I'm 59 and now have a 15" rod and 3 pins holding it all together. I've regained about 75% power in the leg; it will never be quite "right" again. I've stayed away from technical trails for some years now. Mostly I enjoy rail to trail these days. The power assist allows me to use the bike like a gym machine.
I can decide how much effort I want to exert, rather than having the road decide for me. Unlike a gym machine, I get to be outdoors, doing something I've always been passionate about. I don't give a rat's ass what other people think of my "dweeb rig."
I've having a great time, and getting all the exercise I need.
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Old thread, but there, walking talking proof of my point
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Old thread, but there, walking talking proof of my point
Again I'm not disputing that there are SOME practical uses that I can get behind. They're just a lot more that I disagree with.
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Unfortunately the people who have a legitamate use for such a bike as this aren't the primary marketing target. It's the overweight couch potato who thinks he's Brian Lopes who'll buy this boat anchor. On the flip side, if I saw someone with a legitimate reason to own one on the trail I'd probably start a friendly conversation with the person and be polite about his scooter.
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Old 02-25-05, 06:57 PM   #23
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One huge problem with all electric bikes is that you have to be very careful about running out of juice. The range is limited and the bike is heavy, so when you run out of juice, it's a tough ride home. Most people will run out of power once. Then you have an abrupt change of view about the bike. I hope the power (fuel) indicator is a good one. This would be very bad for someone who really needs the motor.
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You have painted an excellent picture in my mind.
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