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    Clipless i mean. not clipliss


    Well today i went out and purchased some wellgo platforms so i can practice a trail thats been beating me up. I either endo, walk down or i have to unclip before i ride down. So I went out to the trail and let me just say it was "a lot" harder to make those techincal climbs. Anyhow, I got to the secton in the trail thats been giving me problems, and ran it about 30 times with the platforms. I crashed 4 times and say another 10 times i just had no control but didnt fall off. All in all i think i finally got that decent down enough so tomorrow I wont have to stop before i get to it.
    I might keep the patforms on a while longer to practice a few other spots as well. But i feel im going to be walking up a lot more now then walking down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crgowo
    Well today i went out and purchased some wellgo platforms so i can practice a trail thats been beating me up. I either endo, walk down or i have to unclip before i ride down. So I went out to the trail and let me just say it was "a lot" harder to make those techincal climbs. Anyhow, I got to the secton in the trail thats been giving me problems, and ran it about 30 times with the platforms. I crashed 4 times and say another 10 times i just had no control but didnt fall off. All in all i think i finally got that decent down enough so tomorrow I wont have to stop before i get to it.
    Sounds like a tough section! Can you describe it? I love working through challenging sections, too.
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    To be honest its not "that" bad. Some riders go through it like nothing. just my technical skills are very low and the angle at which the trail hits the decent makes me lose my balance a lot. Its a steep decent with some huge rocks along the way down so its a bit bumpy as well. right before you get to the decent there is small dip in the trail, say it goes down 4 feet and turns to the right.... then goes back up 4 feet to the left and right when you get back up the decent starts and goes back to the right. So i was practicing getting to the downhill as much as the downhill.
    If i get to the top just right (angle wise) the decent is 40 times easier then if not. Im still a noob. Havent even been riding for a year yet But I plan on getting better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crgowo
    To be honest its not "that" bad. Some riders go through it like nothing. just my technical skills are very low and the angle at which the trail hits the decent makes me lose my balance a lot. Its a steep decent with some huge rocks along the way down so its a bit bumpy as well. right before you get to the decent there is small dip in the trail, say it goes down 4 feet and turns to the right.... then goes back up 4 feet to the left and right when you get back up the decent starts and goes back to the right. So i was practicing getting to the downhill as much as the downhill.
    If i get to the top just right (angle wise) the decent is 40 times easier then if not. Im still a noob. Havent even been riding for a year yet But I plan on getting better.
    The approach often seems harder than the actual descent, doesn't it? Reminds me of a sketchy section we have around here. There's this 10 foot or so drop in off the main trail that then goes through this long winding gully. It's cool because you can go up and down the sides like a half-pipe or something. But to drop in you have to go almost straight down that 10 foot section and the challenge is that on the right side it falls off into this deep hole with sharp rocks in it so, if you missed making the turn to the drop in, you'ld get messed up pretty bad. I don't want to be clipped in right there although I'm not sure it would make any difference (if I missed the turn)!
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    I have a set of welgo platforms on my Hardrock,one side has clips the other doesnt,best of both worlds.You can go from clipped in to unclipped on the run and the ability to bail quick is confidence building on those tricky downhills.
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    Coming from clipless you have to be that much smoother with flats. You need to maintain control you no longer have a device helping you. You aren't going to get it in a day thats for sure. You have to use far more body english then without clipless.

    Yes you loose the up, but I will still take plats over clipless on the technical stuff.

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    Ya i plan on keeping the platforms on for a while. Going to try and get to where i can ride the entire trail without putting my foot down. But i might have to on some of the uphills

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    Well keep in mind, you confidence will have to work up. You are soo used to clipless that flats will feel very unsafe.

    Remember, dh technical sections are easiest fast. If you just let loose and drop the brake you might find it easy

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    I just need to grow bigger bearings i guess I do hold the brake when going down.

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    After falling a whole bunch of a couple of techinal downhill sections, I learned just what Maelstrom said, let loose and drop the brake. It's kinda scary because you feel out of control but you're really in better control.
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    I agree, it is hard training yourself not to hold onto the brake lever for dear mercy. I did the same thing, took a while before i got over that and sometimes i dont know if i still have! But it is kind of fun to just plow through an obstacle when others go around it.

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    I need to grow bigger bearings too.. (I like thatone.. hehe).. I am so bad about holding my brakes on technicial downhills, but frankly they scare me. I know my bad crash I had on Columbus Day was directly related to going too slow when I should have plowed. Argh.

    I've gotten a bunch of armor protection stuff.. I'm hoping they will boost the size of my beairngs to give it a serious college try- going faster.
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    Lol, I I'm still learning the no brake= good thing. Theres these 2 steep ramps in our condominium's parking lot (you know those floor transitions?). At first I was always braking. Then I build more confidence, and kept on going without brakes. Couple of times I almost smashed into cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallen
    I've gotten a bunch of armor protection stuff.. I'm hoping they will boost the size of my beairngs to give it a serious college try- going faster.
    Maybe i should invest in some as well. Other then my helmet i've got no protection.

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    My first protection I got- armored shorts from pricepoint.com. But that was after I had a bad wreck that screwed over my right butt cheek.. I probably will have forever the very painful lump there from landing on a rock.... from GOING TOO SLOW, no less

    I need elbow armor and shoulder armor, I will be complete then
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    Adios, Mofo J-McKech's Avatar
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    Dang Jallen what kinda of stuff do you go over when you need shoulder armor. Not trying to talk down on you at all. I just feel like a nerd when I have on knee/shin pads and I'm just doing XC.....of course I need them when I stump over and skin my knee/shin up lol
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    I definately feel more confidence with my armour on. But it is pretty limited to the high speed stuff on the mountain. I rarely wear it during most rides.

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    I DO feel like a nerd with my armor on, but I grin and bear it, cause being injuried is NOT fun, especially starting out (Never for the matter, but I dont have the confidence of someone more experienced yet ) the XC stuff around here is VERY rugged.. I live in the land of rocky dirt, in Missouri.

    I dont really need shoulder armor, I am just paranoid, really, after my last injury hehe
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    HammerTheHill- we have what are known as mountains around these parts. some of the 'cross country' riding is pretty crazy so it's not uncommon to see people with lots of pads on. it only takes once to flip over the bars and land funny on a rock or tree stump or something.

    pads are one of those things you don't want to wear until AFTER you need them
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    Oh for sure. I wasn't down talking the armour just curious. We have some pretty rugged stuff around here, real rooty and rocky REALLY rocky. I wear knee/shin pads, I might get some elbow pads but its just so hot here in texas. Maybe I'll just have to grin and bear it.
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