Hey Man I thought about putting this in your PM but I figured maybe other people would like your opinion as well. I got a quote from MY bike shop for a Surly Instigator. It comes with a Marzocchi z1 drop off II, Full LX, XT wheel set and Avid Mech Disc's. He quoted me 1677.88 with tax and build up out the door. He also said they will work with me in that I can start putting money down and when I get enough down they will order it and build it up for me. How do all these componets sound, along with the price? The surly a tough ass frame? How is the geometry, again I'll be buying sight unseen. He said it was more of a XC set up than the Morphine which was more FR. He also could build up the Morphine (higher price) but it was pretty much overkill for everything I wanted. He said the Surly would work perfectly.