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Old 12-25-04, 04:34 AM   #1
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Trail Etiquette

I was at the trails the other day and noticed the lack of respect and common sense towards other riders being displayed be a few riders, they put others in danger, an example of this would be one i saw that had left his bike half on half off the trail. Have you seen or had a experiance with something like this? If so, do tell.
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Old 12-25-04, 09:13 AM   #2
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Actually everyone around knoxville so far has been very polite on the trails...there are the 5% or so of motorists that yell at me telling me to get off the road, move my fat ass, the road isn't for bikes, etc. On the trail just give a good shout that you're comin' through and almost anyone clears out of your way esp. if you're scooting. As far as not completely getting off the trail, I doubt anyone would intentionally do it just to make you mad...then again I could be wrong. Just try to realize not everything is done intentionally
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I was at the trails the other day and noticed the lack of respect and common sense towards other riders being displayed be a few riders, they put others in danger, an example of this would be one i saw that had left his bike half on half off the trail. Have you seen or had a experiance with something like this? If so, do tell.
On an off-road mtb trail or on a paved bike/walk path?
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Old 12-25-04, 10:14 AM   #4
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We don't have that problem to much around here. Most of our trail system has a main trail that the dog walkers and familys ride and that flows into the advanced network of trails. Sometimes you get a few kids leaving their bike on the ground or a dog that has strayed from its owner but wasn't you get back into the trail system everyone knows what to do and how to act.
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Old 12-25-04, 11:50 AM   #5
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Everything is fine around here too... Most riders are friendly... and its a pleasure to talk with them because they're pretty good riders aswell
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Old 12-25-04, 01:21 PM   #6
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Around Cannock Chase (just north of Birmingham, Uk) the riders are friendly and even offer advise on what lines to take, The forestry commission has helped by making some of the trails one way only
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I was at the trails the other day and noticed the lack of respect and common sense towards other riders being displayed be a few riders, they put others in danger....
For the most part, the riders in my area are pretty courteous. I'd say 80% observe proper etiquette, such as "downhill yields to uphill on single track", "give ample warning/yield to hikers and horses", "maintain control of yourself", "don't skid"...

The worst time to ride is the weekends. Many weekend riders don't follow basic courtesy - I suppose they just aren't aware of these rules. I've had a few close calls when climbing single track and "meeting" another rider on a blind turn. The last near collision was avoided when the approaching downhill rider laid his bike down and slid into me. He apoligized and was very sincere. Occasionally, I'll encounter a large group of riders with their rigs laid about the trail, forcing me to pick my way thru. Common sense should dictate they keep the trail as clear as possible. Also some oncoming riders don't tell how many (if any) riders are behind them - again, this is very annoying on singletrack.

The weekday and night riders around here are much more courteous.

On the plus side, when I've pulled off the trail for any reason, passing riders usually ask if I need assistance.
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Old 12-27-04, 06:32 AM   #8
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I always ride on professionally built and maintained trails (places like Albion Hills, Hardwood Hills, Mansfield for those of you who are in the Toronto area) and I find that everyone is super-polite and friendly.

Much of the riding I do is on single track and everyone follows direction indicators and will let you pass them if you are faster. The best part is that trails are rated, and the more difficult trails (such as Gnarly at Hardwood Hills or the "24-hour" route at Albion) are almost always deserted.
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Old 12-27-04, 08:01 AM   #9
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in bike riding, just like in everyday life, you will find a % of the population to inconsiderate and self centered as well as a certain % that just don't know any better.

Where I live, the closer you get to Denver, the worse it is, way too many weekend riders. Stay to the trails further out, and those that are riding out there behave much better.
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Heh me and my riding buddies are usually the ones blocking our local trail because we suck and have to stop and walk a lot of it. The regulars are cool though and helpful too.
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Old 12-27-04, 02:49 PM   #11
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Trail etiquette here is fine except on easy trails. On easy trails some people hike them. Its cool on the upper trails as they really keep the newbies off. But in all cases the riders out here are cool and really willing to help out when there is a rookie riding the tough stuff.

Hikers have their own trails and there aren't many horsey people in whistler
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Heh me and my riding buddies are usually the ones blocking our local trail because we suck and have to stop and walk a lot of it. The regulars are cool though and helpful too.

Walking your rigs on the trail does not necessarily constitute blocking them. As long as you're aware of other riders and try to squeeze over when a rider approaches - that's fine. Now, if you just laid your bike across the trail as you rest, then that's not too cool.
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One problem in our area is people doing shuttle runs on DH bikes on public trails.I know everyone has the right to shuttle if they want but making full on DH runs on weekends can result in trail closures.There have been some close calls with hikers this fall.It would be really bad if a sierra club member had to go to the E.R. to have a Stab Primo removed.
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My friend and I did some trails tonight and we only encountered a single jogger who was quite friendly. I had stopped to wait and pulled off to the side of the trail and he came by... saw my light and asked me to light his way down the hill as it was pretty dark and he had no lights. Most people around here are pretty polite and courteous, though, and will stop and wave, nod, etc.
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Poor trail etiquette is normally down to ignorance, and I find that if you point out to the perpetrators that they are causing it, they realise the problem and wont do it again. However, there is an element out there that are just out to cause problems. How you can get through to them I don't know, but a mate of mine did get them a choice a few years ago. All he asked them which side of the body they wanted the tyre tracks and we never saw them again.
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Also, I realize I could be a nuisance to others on the trails, especially hikers and slower riders. On certain trials, I use a small bell to warn others. Most of my ride buddies laugh at the bell, but I feel the good will a simple "ding" to warn others is well worth it. I've had hikers thank me for sounding the bell. I'm sure hikers get startled when a rider passes them without warning. Some riders yell "on your left", but they always sound like cops barking out orders.

I also use the bell on tight single tracks when I can hear a rider approaching on a blind turn. Since I'm usually riding point on ascents, I rib my ride partners that if they were ever first up the hill, they'd want a bell too.
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I usually slow or stop for an uphill rider if possible. Even though they've pretty well messed up my DH rush. I realize it's alot harder to pedal up than to fly down. I've made my DH bikes as lite as possible so I can ride up as well as down. My biggest complaint comes from the horseback riders I encounter. They expect ( rightly so I imagine but don't understand) every Mtn.Biker to dismount his/her bike and stay still until they pass. I simply have a hard time doing this, especially when their animal is sh*tting right in the middle of the trails everyone else is walking/riding on too. That's complete disrespect for everyone else in my book. I think the owner should "diaper" their horse while riding where others have to go thru it's dung....

There, now I feel a little less pressure on my trigger finger....
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My biggest complaint comes from the horseback riders I encounter. They expect ( rightly so I imagine but don't understand) every Mtn.Biker to dismount his/her bike and stay still until they pass. I simply have a hard time doing this, especially when their animal is sh*tting right in the middle of the trails everyone else is walking/riding on too. That's complete disrespect for everyone else in my book. I think the owner should "diaper" their horse while riding where others have to go thru it's dung....
Yes! Friggin undiapered horses!

I'm a pretty avid hiker and trail runner as well as a biker, so I'm a big advocate of courtesy on multi use trails. Man, I hate horse poo all over the trails! Nothing worse than stepping in a nice big pile of it while you're running, or getting some thrown up on your face when you're riding.

Grrr...
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Quite a few bikers here do not yield to hikers/runners, even though that is the posted trail rules. The rules aside, I think it is a matter of safety (depending on the trail situation) that the rider yield to the hiker. A bike flying past a hiker/runner is much more of a potential accident, then a hiker/runner passing a bike. Especially if the hiker is carrying a baby which I encounter frequently here.

Poor trail etiquette is a matter of ignorance (which is different than stupidity). And it is the responsiblity of other trail users to reprimand those that are ignorant, otherwise they'll never understand their mistake.
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