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    Adaptrac - a mountain biking breakthrough?

    Adaptrac. Inflate/deflate on the go. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    Adaptrac. Inflate/deflate on the go. What do you think?
    Looks like the stupidest thing I've seen in years, and at 1.5 pounds it's heavy stupid.
    My speculation was that it applies to some degree in cycling, and I used the previous proof as my reasoning, but I can't prove how exactly it applies to it and to what degree. That, I have admitted, is speculation based on reasoning, but not at this point provable.

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    Another part to break.

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    A fascinating piece of engineering; but if I was going to carry an air cannister around, I'd rather it do something more critical for me like shift (a'la Shimano AirLines - - only that actually worked)

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    You need a co-pilot to operate that system. I have enough trouble just locking and unlocking the suspension. Cool gadget, and I do love gadgets. Must have borrowed the technology from an H-1 Hummer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dminor View Post
    A fascinating piece of engineering; but if I was going to carry an air cannister around, I'd rather it do something more critical for me like shift (a'la Shimano AirLines - - only that actually worked)
    I remember the AirLines.

    Despite some of the negative comments, I don't think this company would have gone through the expense of R&D if there was not a market for it. It's pretty clever, regardless of whether or not it's something any of us would use.

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    An intriguing idea whose time has not yet come. I wonder if the frame tubes could be used for co2 storage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenhill3 View Post
    An intriguing idea whose time has not yet come. I wonder if the frame tubes could be used for co2 storage.
    You sir, are thinking outside the box.

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    Clever. Might make more sense for downhillers at first, and also those who do extended climbs followed by extended descents. I can't see the unit making any real sense where I live. Hills here are often just 20-50 feet high. No one's going to want to flip a switch at the bottom, then at the top, then at the bottom, and then keep doing that the whole ride.

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    It's pretty clear that it will be a while before this catches on, but I think it's pretty cool. Looking forward to seeing some permutation of the design in years to come

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    Seems like MTB technology was a bit stagnant for a while, outside of suspension. I'm looking forward to seeing how the ACROS hydraulic shifting system does as well.

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    It had it's moment in the sun for 2 minutes. The future with shifting is electronic sadly.
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    I really don't see the Adaptrac system catching on with regular riders. It weighs an extra 1 1/2lbs to inflate/deflate approximately 10 times(that's not a whole lot), costs money to recharge the tank, you'll have to go to the trouble of getting it recharged every ride. Is a few PSI change in traction/efficiency worth that to many riders? Downhillers ride lower pressure, all mountain guys go up and down more than 10 times/ride and aren't generally don't care about lap times anyway, and XC guys are the ones willing to spend stupid amounts of money to theoretically save a 1/2 second on their lap time, but they're REALLY sure the way to do that isn't training, but to spend thousands on losing 1lb from their bike, not gaining 1 1/2lbs on a tire pressure system.

    But hey, what do I know. For some reason, like I said, people are willing to spend Thousands more for a bike due to maybe having 1 degree in frame geometry change and 1lb less weight. Road guys will spend thousands more on the exact same geometry bike and 1/2lb less weight. They'll be like Lance Armstrong, right? People do dumb s*** and there's definitely no shortage of people in our country with more money than sense, so maybe the Adaptrac system will be a big hit.
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    See post # 6.

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    Adaptrac plus a couple of turbo spokes and you would be set! lol

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    Turbo spokes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    Turbo spokes?
    only the most innovative invention to grace mountain biking since the wheel.
    http://www.turbospoke.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    Despite some of the negative comments, I don't think this company would have gone through the expense of R&D if there was not a market for it.
    That makes no sense. There are plenty of companies who have spent a ton on R&D for products that have failed miserably.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    It's pretty clever, regardless of whether or not it's something any of us would use.
    Clever isn't the same as necessary or useful. This product is none of these.

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    What do you think?
    It's a problem looking for a solution. And it won't work with my stem.

    Out of curiosity, what is your affiliation, if any, with this company?

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    20 pressure cycles? Great on race day, but what happens When you let the air out the third ride into a canister and are stuck riding wet noodles? You sell the thing on eBay, that's what.

    So Brian, are you the inventor or the financier?

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    I wonder if it's possible to blow your tires off the rim while riding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dminor View Post
    A fascinating piece of engineering; but if I was going to carry an air cannister around, I'd rather it do something more critical for me like shift (a'la Shimano AirLines - - only that actually worked)
    Had to dig out this pic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cryptid01 View Post
    That makes no sense. There are plenty of companies who have spent a ton on R&D for products that have failed miserably.

    Clever isn't the same as necessary or useful. This product is none of these.
    You apparently failed to read the press release in full?

    Quote Originally Posted by cryptid01 View Post
    It's a problem looking for a solution. And it won't work with my stem.

    Out of curiosity, what is your affiliation, if any, with this company?
    If this product holds no interest for you, it doesn't matter that it won't work with your stem. But out of curiosity, why wouldn't it work for you?

    My affiliation is pretty clear, had you clicked the link and read the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IthaDan View Post
    20 pressure cycles? Great on race day, but what happens When you let the air out the third ride into a canister and are stuck riding wet noodles? You sell the thing on eBay, that's what.

    So Brian, are you the inventor or the financier?
    I'm neither that creative, nor do I have such deep pockets. I'm just the guy that runs a website about cycling and outdoors, (which I started when I ran Bikeforums.net) who received a press release that I found interesting enough to share.

    As far as comments on the product, I've been riding mountain bikes since before Rock Shox came out with their ground-breaking 1" travel fork, when a CamelBak was wrapped in a sock, and disc brakes, rear shocks, carbon fiber, and even lock-on grips were unheard of technology for mountain bikes. I've seen plenty of ideas come and go. It will be interesting to see how this company fares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YamiRider1316 View Post
    only the most innovative invention to grace mountain biking since the wheel.
    http://www.turbospoke.com/
    Want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    Want.
    Sounds nothing like my motorbike. And it's sad to see that the folks on this site are still so pessimistic.

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