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Old 05-31-12, 07:32 AM   #1
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Old Trek 8000?

I found a guy on craigslist who will sell me a 98 trek 8000 for $200. It looks brand new. He says hes ridden it at most a dozen times. Should I go for it?
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If you're interested, take someone with you who's knowledgeable about bikes, mountain bikes in particular. Have your expert inspect the bike, both before and after your test-ride (at least a couple miles). As long as your prospective bike has no rust, weld, or fork issues, it should be just fine. However, if it doesn't fit, the condition of the bike won't matter too much. Fit is the most important factor!
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This bike? http://www.bikepedia.com/Quickbike/B...8000&Type=bike

It's a great price if it's in good shape, the Judy fork might be toast by now. The fit of these old Trek hardtails is not to everyone's liking, long top tube. You might love it or hate it, so you should ride it first.


I have 3 similar bikes, 7000zx and 8000sl, love them.
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If you're interested, take someone with you who's knowledgeable about bikes, mountain bikes in particular. Have your expert inspect the bike, both before and after your test-ride (at least a couple miles). As long as your prospective bike has no rust, weld, or fork issues, it should be just fine. However, if it doesn't fit, the condition of the bike won't matter too much. Fit is the most important factor!
Its the perfect size for me its really just a matter of if its a good/fair deal. After all it is a 14 year old bike and I know it was worth $1000+ but is it worth 200 at this point?
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Pass. The internally dry-rotted elastomers inside that Judy XC fork are nearly impossible to replace...plus, that bike weighs a TON. The cantilever brakes don't stop the best and the shifters leaves little to be desired. Apply your $200 towards a new, 2012 Trek 3700 disc....for under $500. Thank me later....

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This bike? http://www.bikepedia.com/Quickbike/B...8000&Type=bike

It's a great price if it's in good shape, the Judy fork might be toast by now. The fit of these old Trek hardtails is not to everyone's liking, long top tube. You might love it or hate it, so you should ride it first.


I have 3 similar bikes, 7000zx and 8000sl, love them.
I know very little about bikes. If it rides well do I need to worry about the Judy fork? Is there a way to test the fork?

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If it's the original Judy, it's probably shot and the elastomers may have degraded so that there is play in the suspension. Maybe the fork was replaced. The bike I found no longer had a Judy that made it a good buy. The one I found was really light. Came with some nice components.
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If it rides well do I need to worry about the Judy fork? Is there a way to test the fork?
Very simply, does it go up and down smoothly, with no forward / backward movement.

The Judy is an old elastomer design, which has long been suppassed now, the biggest issue was the elastomer which will probably be worn out now, with little possibility of replacement (they are around, as well as air converson kits, but are hard to find).

For the bike, if it is the spec as the Bikepedia link, and it fits, if you think the price is good, it's good.

Not sure why there are comments about bad shifting, it's got Shimano LX shifters & LX / XT mechs, and as long as they are setup correctly, they are a good gear system, the same with the brakes, ok, their not as good as discs, but they are good v-brakes.
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Very simply, does it go up and down smoothly, with no forward / backward movement.

The Judy is an old elastomer design, which has long been suppassed now, the biggest issue was the elastomer which will probably be worn out now, with little possibility of replacement (they are around, as well as air converson kits, but are hard to find).

For the bike, if it is the spec as the Bikepedia link, and it fits, if you think the price is good, it's good.

Not sure why there are comments about bad shifting, it's got Shimano LX shifters & LX / XT mechs, and as long as they are setup correctly, they are a good gear system, the same with the brakes, ok, their not as good as discs, but they are good v-brakes.
Im gonna use this bike mostly on streets. Does it even matter if the judy is any good?
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It matters, as it could affect the handling, if you are not taking the bike off road, would look to swapout the fork for a rigid one, these can normally be picked up cheaply at bike shops; as the bike has an aheadset, all you need is a non-threaded 1 18th" fork with a matching length steerer tube.
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Not that I am recommending it in this particular case, but Suspension Fork Parts sells fresh elstomer kits for many old elastomer forks, including the '98 Judys.

http://www.suspensionforkparts.net/e...d&productId=85


(At $50 for the set, you'd have to really love that old fork; but, hey, they are out there for those that chose.)


Or for $30, Wings Suspension has direct-replacement spring sets to ditch the elastomers altogether:

http://wings-suspension.com/rockshox.html
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Is it the same one you linked in this thread? http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...about-this-one

If so, why didnt you just bump that thread? And if it is that one, stay away, too much weirdness going on, even at $200.







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Why does that judy have two braces? and why are there canti brakes and lx cranks from like 94?

Stay away, aluminum can be problematic if you don't know the history of the bike.

Ask this guy for pics- http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/3045333123.html sometimes these can work you for you.
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If that's the bike, it is a bit strange, the bike stock would have come with v brakes, why anyone would want to go back to Canti's is strange to start with.

Also, the bike is way too big for the rider as set up, far too little seatpost showing, and a stubby stem fitted which is more for a DH bike, not an XC one like this.

The Judy's do look to be in OK condition, as they haven't collapsed which is an indication that the elastomers may still have some life left, but what is going on with fitting a 1995 removable Judy brace to a Judy with an integrated brace! if the integrated brace is cracked, would consider the whole fork scrap due to the replacement cost of the lowers.
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If that's the bike, it is a bit strange, the bike stock would have come with v brakes, why anyone would want to go back to Canti's is strange to start with.

Also, the bike is way too big for the rider as set up, far too little seatpost showing, and a stubby stem fitted which is more for a DH bike, not an XC one like this.

The Judy's do look to be in OK condition, as they haven't collapsed which is an indication that the elastomers may still have some life left, but what is going on with fitting a 1995 removable Judy brace to a Judy with an integrated brace! if the integrated brace is cracked, would consider the whole fork scrap due to the replacement cost of the lowers.
Sorry no that was not the bike. It is this one:
http://images.craigslist.org/5N65Kd5...1e49331598.jpg
How does the judy fork look on this one?
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Looks nice, and matches the orginainal description of only being ridden a few times.
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Im gonna use this bike mostly on streets. Does it even matter if the judy is any good?
No it does not. If it sags when you mount or in turns or braking, it's a problem. Otherwise, no issues for street riding. I have a Indy XC on a older commuter zx, works great and I'm not gentle with it. I actually switched it out for a carbon rigid, the old XC was much nicer smoothing out potholes for my commute, switched back.

Ride it; if it handles nice, buy it. My Sid Team MTB fork is pretty damn good, but it's a useless luxury on the steet.

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Pass. The internally dry-rotted elastomers inside that Judy XC fork are nearly impossible to replace...plus, that bike weighs a TON. The cantilever brakes don't stop the best and the shifters leaves little to be desired. Apply your $200 towards a new, 2012 Trek 3700 disc....for under $500. Thank me later....
Wrong, wrong and wrong, It's stock with V brakes with Avid levers, not cantis, and they're going to be maintenance free compared to cheap discs, the July might last for 30 yrs on the street, the bike is Al with good components, i.e. it's reasonable light for an old MTB. The 8000 and 8500 were solid MTB performers in their day.

A Trek 3700 semi-hybrid is a mommie bike, imho, with a crap Suntour fork and Altus RD, yuk.

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Sorry no that was not the bike. It is this one:
http://images.craigslist.org/5N65Kd5...1e49331598.jpg
How does the judy fork look on this one?
If that's the bike for $200, but that, like now, because that's a hell of a deal.
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