Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 18 of 18
  1. #1
    jepp
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    nj
    My Bikes
    momgoose junk
    Posts
    7
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    junk the mongoose junk or upgrade

    hey can anybody help out a newbie. i raced bmx when i was younger and now after many years of drinking brews im getting into mountain biking. i have a mongoose sx 4.3. i know this bikes no good but right now i dont have money for a good bike on acount of kids. im into jumping, trails, and long distance runs, and im just starting out so in the future ill probably get into more hardcore stuff. id like a good bike with full suspension. should i trash the mongoose and wait until i can afford a good bike, or do you think the mongoose parts are worthy of a new frame and suspension and just keep upgrading the parts as i go along, this would be easier for me, but is it worth it. either way any and all suggestions will be apriciated. Thanks

  2. #2
    jepp
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    nj
    My Bikes
    momgoose junk
    Posts
    7
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    and if it helps im not a little guy 6'1" 240lbs i'll need a bike that i wont brake in the rough stuff but isnt to heavy for long distance. thanks

  3. #3
    Work hard, Play hard forum*rider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    San Diego, California
    My Bikes
    Cannondale super V 500, Bianchi Piaggio(hopefully getting a new road bike when I get some money)
    Posts
    2,596
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I would either:

    A)Scrap the mongoose now and get a nice bike.

    or

    B)Wait until you have more money and can afford a nicer bike.

    Kona makes a line of bikes for larger riders, the Hoss and Hoss deelux I believe they are called. A member here (PWRDbyTRD) has one and he seems very pleased with it.

    Edit: links

    Hoss --> http://www.konaworld.com/shopping_ca...1&parentid=182

    Hoss deelux --> http://www.konaworld.com/shopping_ca...2&parentid=182

    BTW I know you asked for a FS bike but FS bikes don't start to get good until you get into the $1000+ range. I figured that since you kind of implied that a cheaper bike would be nice I would just suggest the hardtail.

  4. #4
    jepp
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    nj
    My Bikes
    momgoose junk
    Posts
    7
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    i will check out the konas. i guess it wouldnt make sense to dump money into the mongoose, i'll try to set aside money, look for the right bike, and when i break the mongoose i'll make the purchace. Thanks

  5. #5
    Brisbane Rider Aus_MTB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Brisbane
    My Bikes
    2005 Giant XTC 2 LE
    Posts
    216
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Those konas are definetly a good option. What sort of price range were you looking at? Because you can get some really nice hardtails for a cheaper price and as forum*rider said, you do need to spend that bit extra to get a decent fs.

  6. #6
    jepp
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    nj
    My Bikes
    momgoose junk
    Posts
    7
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    i dont have much of a price range right now, but when work picks up i should be able to get around 1200.00 together. i would like to go with fs. if i cant get a good fs bike new i would consider used.
    what about getting a fs frame and put my cheapy componants on it and slowly upgrade.

  7. #7
    Ride On!! PanPanX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Temple City, CA
    My Bikes
    2004 OCR3, 1989 Nishiki Sport, 2003 Kona Blast, 2007 Fuji Track
    Posts
    467
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    why do you only want full suspension?

  8. #8
    I drink your MILKSHAKE Raiyn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    St. Petersburg, FL
    My Bikes
    2003 Specialized Rockhopper FSR Comp, 1999 Specialized Hardrock Comp FS, 1971 Schwinn Varsity
    Posts
    15,071
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You can get a better equipped hartail at the price you're looking at. Wspecially if you're "just starting out" starting out with full suspension creates large holes in the development of riding skill. You become dependant on the suspension to bail you out instead of learning how to ride the obstacle.

  9. #9
    Campy or bust :p cryogenic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Knoxville, TN
    My Bikes
    Surly Karate Monkey commuter build
    Posts
    3,139
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'm still of the school of thought that you should start on a hardtail and build your skills, then move to FS. You can get a really nice HT for $1200 or an average FS for the same price. I'd go with the nice HT with nice components over the middle-of-the-pack FS with average components.

  10. #10
    jepp
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    nj
    My Bikes
    momgoose junk
    Posts
    7
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    i hear you that a hard tail is better to start out with but if i get money together for a new bike i dont want to upgrade again in a year. i figured if i get the right bike now i would be happy with it for a while. maybe im wrong enlighten me.

  11. #11
    Campy or bust :p cryogenic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Knoxville, TN
    My Bikes
    Surly Karate Monkey commuter build
    Posts
    3,139
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    That's our point... a hardtail is the "right bike now". It teaches you to develop riding skills as opposed to learning to use the suspension to bail you out. Plus, at that price range, you're going to get a lot higher-end components on a HT plus you're going to be losing a few lbs as well. You won't necessarily be upgrading in a year, either. You may decide that you love your hardtail and have no reason to upgrade to FS. There are quite a few members here that are that way.

  12. #12
    jepp
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    nj
    My Bikes
    momgoose junk
    Posts
    7
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    cryo-my thought was i have to be careful with my purchaces i have 2 kids and mortgage and all that good stuff, but my wife is cool with me buying a decent bike so i can get into shape, she wont be cool with me buying a more epensive bike a year later. but if i buy an average fs i might end up upgrading anyway. so i see your point if i buy a hard tail i will learn more, and have a better bike for the money.thanks

  13. #13
    I drink your MILKSHAKE Raiyn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    St. Petersburg, FL
    My Bikes
    2003 Specialized Rockhopper FSR Comp, 1999 Specialized Hardrock Comp FS, 1971 Schwinn Varsity
    Posts
    15,071
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jepp
    i hear you that a hard tail is better to start out with but if i get money together for a new bike i dont want to upgrade again in a year. i figured if i get the right bike now i would be happy with it for a while. maybe im wrong enlighten me.
    That's the beauty of it. With the better equipped bike you won't need to upgrade. Plus it takes more than a year to get the skills needed together. One other advantage is the fact that if you get a good enough bike you can simply get a FS frame and transfer the parts.

  14. #14
    jepp
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    nj
    My Bikes
    momgoose junk
    Posts
    7
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    thanks alot im glad i posted here. didnt take long for you guys to change my mind.

  15. #15
    Campy or bust :p cryogenic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Knoxville, TN
    My Bikes
    Surly Karate Monkey commuter build
    Posts
    3,139
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Here's a good comparison of a $1200 HT vs a $1200 FS... I'm a Specialized fan myself, so I'll use their product line.
    The Specialized Stumpjumper can be had for about $1200 retail (says $1300 MSRP).
    http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkMode...5aiwgda.j27010

    The Rockhopper Pro Disc is actually just over $1000 and has a nice component set, too. The frame isn't as nice as the Stumpjumper, though.
    http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkMode...5aiwgda.j27010

    Here's the FSR-XC, which is a decent full suspension XC bike.. $1100 MSRP. Same as the Rockhopper Pro Disc.
    http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkMode...5aiwgda.j27010

  16. #16
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    7
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by cryogenic
    Here's a good comparison of a $1200 HT vs a $1200 FS... I'm a Specialized fan myself, so I'll use their product line.
    The Specialized Stumpjumper can be had for about $1200 retail (says $1300 MSRP).
    http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkMode...5aiwgda.j27010

    The Rockhopper Pro Disc is actually just over $1000 and has a nice component set, too. The frame isn't as nice as the Stumpjumper, though.
    http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkMode...5aiwgda.j27010

    Here's the FSR-XC, which is a decent full suspension XC bike.. $1100 MSRP. Same as the Rockhopper Pro Disc.
    http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkMode...5aiwgda.j27010

    So the way this is ranked is the Stumper jumper first, then the rockhopper, followed by the FSR XC in this order?

  17. #17
    la vache fantôme phantomcow2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    NH
    Posts
    6,266
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I would say yes the stumper jumper should be your buy. IT has higher end components for close to the same price as the fsr-xc. It makes no sence to hvea a really nice high end full suspension frame matched with POS components

  18. #18
    Senior Member incipit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Fuquay-Varina, NC
    My Bikes
    Trek 4500, Fuji Royale, Specialized allez comp
    Posts
    282
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I would use the Mongoose for now until my skill level or severely broken bike demanded a better ride, all the while stashing dough away for the new bike.
    Ride this season on the Goose and if you still have the BUG for this awesome sport purchase a healthy new ride, and if you ride alot this season your fitness/skill level will let you really take advantage of your new bike.
    '03 Trek 4500, Marzocchi MX Comp ETA, Avid mechs w/flak Jackets, Shimano XT Deraillers, XT Hubs w/Rhynolites

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •