broomhandle

i just acquired this mountain bike, the guy said its a "titanium GT downhill bike", when i bought it i though, i don't care, i just want the mavic rims. but now i don't think its a GT or titanium. the only marking on it is a small inscribed "E" and by the dropouts it says "Everest". there is also a marking that says "alfton 7005" is this a alfton frame?? if so i there any info about alftons? where are they made? could this be a Ti frame? help!!!!

madbiker555

I looked around on the web and all I could find on that bike was some information in German so im going to guess it's German. But it seems like it could be from somewhere from Europe? anyways, Im not sure. Dont hasle yourself trying to find info on it... it would probably take to long, plus you would have to do a lot of translating So good luck if you do decide to try and find it

Killer B

I think its a Ritchey Everest. 7005? thats the frame composition. Aluminum....

broomhandle

thanx for the help, so if this is a ritchey everest, i cant find any info on this bike. is it supposed to have decals on it?? is it a built up bike? sold as a frame only? or did ritchy build complete bikes?

broomhandle

well i emailed this pix to ritchey. they said its not a ritchey frame. i guess its a nobody. no one made it. why dont bike companies mark there bikes better, i just got another bike out of the trash. i know its english with the components, and the sturmy hub says its a 53. but know knows what it is, just a faint serial number that ends with a 3, but other wise no markings.

nepaMTBer

Well its obviusly not a downhill bike so I wouldnt be surprised if its not a GT or titanium either. What kinda mavics does it have?

khuon

You better not let Tom Ritchey hear you insinuate that he produced an Al frame... especially the Everest.

broomhandle

well, ritchey emailed me this:

There is almost no way you have a Ritchey Everest Frame.

1. they have not been made since the mid 90's.(like 94,95)
2. There are some that exist, but they are at Tom Ritchey's house (the
owner). If your friend is a personal friend of Tom, then he may have gotten
one that way... but I doubt it. Most of the friends of Tom keep their bikes
for ever...
3. There is no way it is a Ritchey if it is Aluminum. (so the 6061 stamp on
the frame contradicts this)
4. All Ritchey frames have Ritchey Dropouts. These are stamped with a "TR"
on them. If your frame is a Ritchey, it will have the stamp on the drop-out.

and my bike is made of 7005 aluminum....

but then there is this:

https://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Bike_rig...ct_76546.shtml

im confused, its a cool bike though, i just wish i knew what i am ridding, and the mavic rims are SUP.

and its not a GT frame, all the GT's i have seen have there little triangle action in the back.

khuon

It may not be German afterall...

https://www.bikexpo.com/vip/ALFTON/

https://www.roy.hi-ho.ne.jp/tsuno-jun/mtb7008.html

swifferman

How much did you pay?

seely

Its definately not a GT. GT, since the 80's, has used a "triple triangle" design where the rear stays connect to the toptube AND the seat tube creating a stiffer rearend. If you have a better picture (ie one that is larger than 2" x 2" ;-) put that up... its a bit hard to see any tell-tale details from this pic.

broomhandle

thanx for the links,

https://www.roy.hi-ho.ne.jp/tsuno-jun/mtb7008.html

that i think is my bike, i am currently taking high res pictures, and in one of the photos there is a faint "easton" it only showed up in the photo!!!

so now ill try and find what a easton is, ive never heard of it.

and ill post the high res pix in a bit.

and i bought this bike at a garage sale for 100 bucks, just for the mavic 517 sup rims to go on my trek. but then i started ridding this bike and i liked it better than my trek. my trek has just been sold. haha!!!

Maelstrom 

Easton is who makes the tubing. Not the name of the company that made the bike

seely

If it uses Easton tubing, its pretty decent quality most likely. Most bikes that advertise using Easton tubing are $800+. For some reason I keep thinking the frame looks like a 200x Kona... a LOT like my 2001 Cindercone or my friend's Muni Mula. But they used such a generic design that theres a lot of very similar bikes out there.

broomhandle

ok, i posted pix.

https://www.eyelashout.net/downloads/MTB/bikes.html

and the word under the "E" logo says ELITE

and here is Easton's web site with the 7005 tubing and the Elite is there.

https://www.eastonbike.com/TUBE_SETS/tubesets_7005.html

hooray, what a journey.

now what the hell is easton?? looks like its a UK company.

anybody know?

jeff williams

Easton made the tubeset. Frameworks built elsewhere.

The bikes geometry looks good.

"4. All Ritchey frames have Ritchey Dropouts. These are stamped with a "TR"
on them. If your frame is a Ritchey, it will have the stamp on the drop-out."

They are wrong. Mine does not. Yes it's real.
And I hand stripped it, I would have seen the marks.

khuon

As others have said, you have a pretty decent bike on your hand... at least as far as material is concerned. I think Alfton is a Taiwanese company that mass-produces frames. There's really no shame there either. Judging by how it's been built up (Shimano 8sp XT), I would have to date it to around the mid-1990s (1995-1997)... probably closer to 1995 considering the inclusion of that rear cable-hanger meant for straddle-cable cantilevers. My guess is that it originally sold for around the $1200 to $1500 mark.

As far as Easton is concerned, they're a very reputable company that makes aluminum and carbon fiber components and tubesets. My MTB has many components and parts made by Easton... rear swingarm, fork legs, seatpost, handlebars...

broomhandle

so if this is a ALFTON, why is there nothing on the web about them? are they a company that went under?

jeff williams

Fung Tien Electric Co. Ltd made the frame prob.

https://business.com.tw/home/e0067396/home.htm

"der hersteller des rahmens heißt "alfton"(Fung Tien Electric Co. Ltd) und die
Legierung ist eine AN6 legierung, daraus werden eigentlich
hochspannungsisolatoren hergestellt.Die machen u.a. die Rahmen für Stevens und
viele ander Fahrradhersteller. Made in Taiwan."

=:'the manufacturer of the framework is called "alfton"(Fung Tien Electric CO Ltd.) and the alloy is a AN6 alloy, from this actually high voltage insulators will make manufacture those among other things the frameworks for stevens and many other for bicycle manufacturers. Made in Tiawan.'

https://translate.google.com/translat...lr%3D%26sa%3DN

khuon

Many Taiwanese production shops (not just limited to Taiwan... it's done everywhere in the world) are simply that. They are heavy industry businesses that can tool up to produce a variety of things which require similar manufacturing processes. They oftentimes don't outright market their products but work as the back-end production facility for those that do. Sometimes however when contracts are lean, they will simply sell direct those designs which do not have intellectual property rights attached (or in some cases even if they do) and their OEM products show up as no-name generics or under lesser-known rebranded names or house-rebranded products (REI does this with their Novarra line of bikes for example). Alfton looks to be one of these shops. There are many examples of this sort of thing throughout many industries.