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Old 09-22-12, 02:24 PM   #1
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Help! 2012 Giant Talon 29er and 2013 Giant Revel 0

I've been looking at some 29ers to ride on some rail trails and grow into some moderate trails. Came across these 2 bikes at my lbs and likes them both.

Thing is, the Talon is a 2012 clearance bike they are selling for $500 which is a great deal but it doesn't have the lockout fork I want. Its normally a $600-700 bike. The Revel O rode just as nice and has the lockout fork but it is $580. Equipment wise, the Talon is the better equipped and more advanced bike and i'd love to buy it but the lockout fork is important to me. I called the shop back to see if it made sense to get the Talon and have them swap the fork. He said to do that it would be a $200-300 upgrade and I might as well get the 2013 version but that brings it above what I want to spend.

Is it really that much to trade the fork for a locking one? If it is, so be it. I'd be perfectly happy with the Revel it's just that I was trying to get this "better" bike for a steal.

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My thoughts are lockout on forks is overrated. Cheap forks' lockout never seems to actually lock out properly, and expensive forks are efficient enough that there's hardly any pedal bob and lockout is unnecessary.
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My thoughts are lockout on forks is overrated. Cheap forks' lockout never seems to actually lock out properly, and expensive forks are efficient enough that there's hardly any pedal bob and lockout is unnecessary.
Your probably right but I wanted this bike to be multipurpose as well to do some decent street/road biking with my teens. Their bikes are old and crappy and I think they'll really take to these 29ers, not hybrids.

When I rode the Talon it was constantly flexing since I'm about 200lbs. I might go try it again tomorrow but I think it'll drive me nuts. I don't want a bike that I can only use for one purpose. I considered the Giant Roam bikes which are great but I'd like something a bit more different than my Trek hybrid. The Roam is basically the same just with a lockout fork. I'd probably grow out of it on the trails quickly and regret it.
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Is it really that much to trade the fork for a locking one? If it is, so be it. I'd be perfectly happy with the Revel it's just that I was trying to get this "better" bike for a steal.
It is that much, yes. First you need to buy a new fork on the after market. Then there is labor to install it. No real market for the old fork either, not at that level. Your shop's advice is sound.
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If I said that the lockout feature is not a consideration, the ride is equivalent and the price is the same, which bike is the better quality bike otherwise in your opinions??
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Which is the better quality bike with the better components in your opinion??

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/...specifications

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http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/...0/11522/55888/
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Revel has nicer components...X5, 9-speed, and BB5s. Looks like the Talon may have a nicer frame though. Probably not enough to notice though. Talon also has more travel, but chances are the forks are so cheap that you won't tell the difference. I'd go Revel.

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Revel has nicer components...X5, 9-speed, and BB5s. Looks like the Talon may have a nicer frame though. Probably not enough to notice though. Talon also has more travel, but chances are the forks are so cheap that you won't tell the difference. I'd go Revel.
Thanks for taking the time to help.

Frame is important too because I like to consider which bike would make more sense to upgrade. The Talon's frame is slightly higher quality and lighter according to the lbs tech. Like you said, both forks are probably low quality so which bike would be more worthwhile to upgrade is important.

Anyone else?
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I'm not sure I'd recommend upgrading either one. Ride it, replace what breaks, and save the upgrade money to put towards a new bike. Believe it or not, that's probably the cheaper way to go, unless you're an eBay ninja.
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I'm not sure I'd recommend upgrading either one. Ride it, replace what breaks, and save the upgrade money to put towards a new bike. Believe it or not, that's probably the cheaper way to go, unless you're an eBay ninja.
Yes, I agree. I wouldn't upgrade anything from the outset. Only a year or two down the road if there was something I strongly dislike or if anything breaks.
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