Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Mountain Biking Mountain biking is one of the fastest growing sports in the world. Check out this forum to discuss the latest tips, tricks, gear and equipment in the world of mountain biking.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-31-05, 03:50 AM   #1
PWRDbyTRD
Toyota Racing Dev.
Thread Starter
 
PWRDbyTRD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Knoxville, TN baby!
Bikes: 2004 Kona Hoss Dee-Lux
Posts: 3,339
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rear Shock

I've seen 500lb/in and 600lb/in....what's the stiffest one you can get?
PWRDbyTRD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-05, 04:24 AM   #2
Brian
Senior Member
 
Brian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Between the mountains and the lake.
Bikes: 8 bikes - one for each day of the week!
Posts: 16,683
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I've seen a 650, but it's only money. I'm pretty sure I know at least one place that can custom wind a coil (titanium too maybe) as high as you would need. There's a theoretical and practical limit though. After a certain point, it won't matter as the rest of your components would fail before you bottom your shock.
Brian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-05, 05:53 AM   #3
DjRider04
snow
 
DjRider04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Henniker, USA
Bikes: Rootbeer Bullit, stock......soon to be a transgold V10 w/shivers
Posts: 794
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
thinking about getting a new rear shock for your hardtail?

Ive seen 750lb.
DjRider04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-05, 06:33 AM   #4
mtnbiker66
Old School Rad
 
mtnbiker66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The old Mountains
Bikes: Blur LT
Posts: 8,212
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
What up, Thoughyt you had a hardtail. Are you holding out on us? I have a 750 but I don't run it, it's super stiff.A lot depends on the type of susp. SP,4 bar, ect.
__________________
Like a circus monkey on a stolen Harley......
mtnbiker66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-05, 06:39 AM   #5
PWRDbyTRD
Toyota Racing Dev.
Thread Starter
 
PWRDbyTRD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Knoxville, TN baby!
Bikes: 2004 Kona Hoss Dee-Lux
Posts: 3,339
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'd like to get a full suspension bike at some point....and what I needed to know is how stiff they can get since I don't want alot of bob.
PWRDbyTRD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-05, 09:41 AM   #6
handlebarsfsr
you cant handle bars.
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 191
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i have a 700 on my fsr, and a 500 on my stinky. you can order them to 1000+ lbs directly from the manufacturer, and im sure they could make you a custom one if you needed.
handlebarsfsr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-05, 12:01 PM   #7
Maelstrom 
Wood Licker
 
Maelstrom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Whistler,BC
Bikes: Transition Dirtbag, Kona Roast 2002 and specialized BMX
Posts: 16,885
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have seen over 1000 on really bad ratio bikes. Ideally you want to find a low leverage ratio bike so you can use the lightest spring possible. Its going to be tough at your size though. On a bighit with a 3:1 ratio you need over 1000 pounds.
Maelstrom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-05, 12:07 PM   #8
swifferman
Senior Member
 
swifferman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 1,124
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by PWRDbyTRD
I'd like to get a full suspension bike at some point....and what I needed to know is how stiff they can get since I don't want alot of bob.
Why though PWRD? It would be another thing to worry about and your Hoss-Dee-Lux would probably be much stronger.
swifferman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-05, 02:36 PM   #9
Dirtbike
Giggity giggity!
 
Dirtbike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Danville, Ca
Bikes: Yeti DJ Custom build. X.9, Marzocchi, RaceFace, Gamut, DT, Truvativ, Michelin, Hope.
Posts: 1,800
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
get a suspension with not much leverage on the shock so it can be stiff enough for you.
Dirtbike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-05, 10:01 PM   #10
PWRDbyTRD
Toyota Racing Dev.
Thread Starter
 
PWRDbyTRD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Knoxville, TN baby!
Bikes: 2004 Kona Hoss Dee-Lux
Posts: 3,339
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I like my hardtail..and it's fun, but athe time same time a hardtail still shakes me up pretty hard on trails and this summer I'd like to get into some more trail riding. I am just exploring options...who knows if I'll ever go to one. So a big hit runs a 3:1 ratio??
PWRDbyTRD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-05, 10:36 PM   #11
Maelstrom 
Wood Licker
 
Maelstrom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Whistler,BC
Bikes: Transition Dirtbag, Kona Roast 2002 and specialized BMX
Posts: 16,885
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Depending on shcok position and travel selected yes.
Maelstrom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-05, 10:37 PM   #12
PWRDbyTRD
Toyota Racing Dev.
Thread Starter
 
PWRDbyTRD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Knoxville, TN baby!
Bikes: 2004 Kona Hoss Dee-Lux
Posts: 3,339
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
so a 900lb shock for a 300lb person?
PWRDbyTRD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-05, 11:30 PM   #13
Hopper
Ride bike or bike ride?
 
Hopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Bikes: MongoosePro DH, Dart custom road bike, .243 Racing FR street bike
Posts: 1,447
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
the ratio thing means that the shock's stroke length is only a third of the travel. So say a bike with nine inches of travel at the rear axel has a shock with a stroke length of 3 ionches, it has a compression ratio of 3:1. So that doesn't mean a 900lb spring for a 300lb rider.

In actual fact if a bike as described above had a 900lb spring, it means it takes 900lbs of weight to compress the springh, and hence shock 1 inch. So for the shock to bottom out, 2700lb's are needed. This would equate to 300lb's needed to move the rear axel 1 inch.

I used to use a 550lb spring on my bighit and if I wanted I could probably have gotten away with using a heavier spring, even though I am light 55kg I still needed areasonably heavy spring (for my weight) because I did big drops/jumps and I liked the feeling of a hard shock, espescially for racing.
Hopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-05, 12:25 AM   #14
Raiyn
I drink your MILKSHAKE
 
Raiyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Bikes: 2003 Specialized Rockhopper FSR Comp, 1999 Specialized Hardrock Comp FS, 1971 Schwinn Varsity
Posts: 15,061
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
PWRD this is difficult to say without it sounding bad, but here goes: There's no way anyone is going to warranty a FS bike for someone your size. I'm going to suggest that you continue with your current bike until you meet some of the goals you've set for yourself. At your present size you will run a definate risk of suspension failure. I can't in good faith make a suggestion of a FS bike for you simply due to your current weight..
__________________
Raiyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-05, 12:49 AM   #15
PWRDbyTRD
Toyota Racing Dev.
Thread Starter
 
PWRDbyTRD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Knoxville, TN baby!
Bikes: 2004 Kona Hoss Dee-Lux
Posts: 3,339
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raiyn
PWRD this is difficult to say without it sounding bad, but here goes: There's no way anyone is going to warranty a FS bike for someone your size. I'm going to suggest that you continue with your current bike until you meet some of the goals you've set for yourself. At your present size you will run a definate risk of suspension failure. I can't in good faith make a suggestion of a FS bike for you simply due to your current weight..
You're one of the few people who can say something and I would take it in the best possible way. I don't plan on buying the bike immediately...I was just curious as to how heavy you could be and actually ride one.
PWRDbyTRD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-05, 09:14 AM   #16
a2psyklnut
NCAA - DUAL CHAMPIONS!
 
a2psyklnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: From Sarasota, FL sitting in front of a computer spewing random thoughts!
Bikes: Intense Uzzi SL, Masi Speciale, Trek 3700 Nashbar Single Speed, Old Cilo Road frame
Posts: 7,964
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I run about 250 lbs, up from there when lazy. I have a 6.5" eye to eye on my Enduro SX and I run a 950 lb spring.

I had to order this directly from FOX, and had a hard time doing so. I ended up buying an 850 and a 950 since I finally talked to someone there that could help me. I think they had some old stock, so I lucked out. Don't know about the other manufacturers.
__________________
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "WOW, What a Ride!" - unknown
"Your Bike Sucks" - Sky Yaeger
a2psyklnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:41 PM.