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Old 01-23-13, 01:10 AM   #1
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I want the best mountain bike i can get for under $400 which brands should I start/w?

I am 6'1'', my budget is $400, I definitely want dual-suspension, disc brakes would be nice as well. I haven't road a bike in a long time, I have no idea where to start in my search? Very much appreciate any help!
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Sadly, your budget is not enough for what you want unless you shop diligently on the used market.

I >cough< >cough< know this guy who is 6'-1" and has one for around that price but it would be a bit self-serving to link to his Marketplace ad I suppose.
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That bike dminor so helpfully linked is the closest you're going to get to your demands and your budget.

I seriously doubt you need full suspension if $400 is your budget though. I think you want full suspension, but don't need it (yet). Either way a new full suspension bike for $400 is going to be crap so you're stuck with second hand.
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Sadly, your budget is not enough for what you want unless you shop diligently on the used market.

I >cough< >cough< know this guy who is 6'-1" and has one for around that price but it would be a bit self-serving to link to his Marketplace ad I suppose.
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That bike and dminor's special touch make that blue monster a great value.
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A $400 bike with disc brakes and full suspension? You're in Wal-Mart territory there, and I advise you to steer clear.

I saw some decent front suspension, non disc (maybe they had front discs, I don't remember) bikes at sport chalet for around $400. Can't remember the brands, but I think they were carrying Fuji/Gary Fisher/Specialized. I believe they were 29'ers, too.
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craigslist pretty good used bikes ....jan 1st comes around all those couch potatoes buy a mountain bike so they can get healthier they ride it 2-3 times garage it next jan 1st resulution clean the garage and sell that bike they never ride .................REMEMBER once you ride a brand new bike for the 1st time it becomes a used bike
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A $400 bike with disc brakes and full suspension? You're in Wal-Mart territory there, and I advise you to steer clear.
Far from it - - it's just a 2003 full suspension. I don't think you'll find Hayes Stroker Aces on a Wally bike .
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Dawes Haymaker 1200 $379.00
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Old 02-02-13, 09:14 AM   #11
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Here's a bike in your price range.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mongoose-X...-Bike/16913467

Now I'll let everyone tell you why it's a piece of crap.
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Saddle looks flexy^
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Far from it - - it's just a 2003 full suspension. I don't think you'll find Hayes Stroker Aces on a Wally bike .
I was talking about a new bike.
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Here's a bike in your price range.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mongoose-X...-Bike/16913467

Now I'll let everyone tell you why it's a piece of crap.
I'll bite- heavy, slow, cheap components, assembled by a former McDonalds employee who had never turned a wrench until they worked for Wal-Mart.
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I'm looking for a yeti dh bike for about 2fiddy.
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Mongoose XR-PRO 29" Men's Mountain Bike:
  • SR Suntour crank offers a wide range of gearing
  • Riding Style: mountain bike
  • Frame: aluminum, full-suspension main frame maximizes performance
  • Suspension: SR Suntour suspension fork offers a smooth, controlled ride through the bumps
  • Gearing: SRAM SX4 trigger shifters change gear smoothly and efficiently through 24 speeds
  • Derailleur: SRAM X4 rear derailleur
  • Brakes: front and rear disc brakes give all-condition stopping power
  • Rims: wide alloy rims provide lightweight durability
  • Dimensions: 68"L x 23"W x 41"H
  • Assembly instructions included


Looks pretty well equipped to me for the money actually..A trek 3700 or 4500 or a
specialized hardrock are equally or actually less equipped.

Ok so the front shock and rear shock arent 1000 dollar range componants but they are as upgradeable
as any bike..most tend to upgrade anyway so i look at it as 200 more i can use to upgrade with.

Todays rear airshocks are plentyful and i think this bike can accept up to a 7 or 7.5 eye to eye rear shock.
For the 200 you saved you can get a rockshoks rear shock and a tk30 front fork off ebay easily. Then
of course decent pedals and lighter weight componants like the handlebars and stem.This can be a very
good bike in my opinion.Not something i would take down hill or anything but for basic trail riding i see
no problems with it at all.The front fork change and lighter weight componants i mention will easily knock
probably 2 lbs off the bike or more. Dont go by the weights claimed on the site.No way that bike weighs 47lbs.
Its closer to maybe 33-34lbs. I know someone who built up a walmart Genesis V2100 and hes got the weight down
to 29lbs and its a full suspension bike

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The Mongoose XR Pro 29er and the XR200 26er are the best 2 from mongoose that are worthy of upgrades.
And the Genesis V2100 26er and Saber 26er are the best from Genesis with the Saber being the better of the two.
All models are all availiable from walmart. Heres a build of a genesis V2100.

Rockshocks shocks
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Sram X5 crank and shifting componants.
Dual mechanical disc brakes
Bike weights in at 29.8lbs
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I can say the rear frame section on the genesis v2100 and the saber are alloy and not heavy steel.
The XR pro and xr200 im not sure about.


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I'm looking for a yeti dh bike for about 2fiddy.
I think an ol' Santa Cruz Super-8 would be more appropriate. Y'know, something really old like you . . . .
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I would look at the Bikes Direct front suspension bikes if you want to go new. You have not ridden a bike in a number of years but you plan is to hit trails that you need a dual suspension?
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If you can find an experienced MTBer to help you, I'd go with dminor's recommendation to buy used. A good quality, maintained used bike with good or top quality components will out-perform a new entry level bike (and forget about a Wally World bike). The trick is to find an older, higher end bike in good condition. If you can, you'll enjoy the sport much more. If dminor lives close to you, see if you can arrange a trial of his bike.
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To thash: Honestly, you wont find a nice full suspension bike at $400 price range. Unless it's a Wal-Mart bike. If I were you, I just save money untill I can get really nice dual suspension bike.
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