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    What spokes should I go with for this wheel build?

    Rims are 32 hole, 28mm wide AM rims by Sun ringle. Sealed bearing hubs, disk brakes, and 9sp if that matters at all? Rider weight is ~150lbs. The wheels will see rocky terrain, small-medium sized jumps, and 1-3' drops on a regular basis.

    I did some reading, but still unsure if I should get double butted or straight gauge for MTBing, and it seems like I should go with brass nipples, right? 14/15 gauge from a reputable brand and brass nipples?
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    Go double-butted DT Swiss Competition spokes. They are plenty tough for any MTB application. I rebuilt my 32h Syncros downhill wheels at the beginning of last season with them and have had no issues whatsoever.

    The comparable offering from Wheelsmith would be fine too but I've found that the packaging for sale most places to be awkward: Wheelsmiths usually come in packs of 50 for gawd-knows-what reason. That does nobody, especially with 32-hole wheels, any good. DT Swiss is readily available in a 72 pc. pack which allows you to lace up both wheels and have some spares. That's assuming, of course, that your spoke lengths are all close enough to the same. I got lucky on that build and right/left/front/rear were all within a mm or two of each other. I got my box of 72 on a price match deal from Jenson for $67.

    Oh, and yes, take the slight weight hit and use brass niples. I don't like how brittle the alloy nipples are that come with the DT Swiss spokes. I ended up doing an emergency nipple transplant on my rear wheel one afternoon at Whistler last summer . . . not the time you want to have to deal with broken nipples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dminor View Post
    ...emergency nipple transplant ... one afternoon at Whistler last summer . . . not the time you want to have to deal with broken nipples.
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    Thanks, D.
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    ^What D said. Alloy nipples are just plain silly. I usually go for the beef and and build my wheels with straight 14ga. That's just me. And forget about radial and such lacing. Three cross has proven itself. Yes, I beleive Jobst Brandt.
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    Brass nipples, and double-butted DT spokes. If laced sensibly, they'll last a very long time.
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    …and don't forget to add the brass washers (to put under the spoke-heads, see other threads for reasons, or read Gerd Schraner's "The Art of Wheelbuilding").

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    ^^ Unnecessary. MTB hubs don't generally have that weenie of flanges; and if you go doing that on a normal-thickness flange, it's going to stress the j-bends more IMO.



    vvv I think his Sun Ringle' rims are eyeleted, Ken. Didn't say but probably Equalizers or ADDs or some such.
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    Add eyeletted hoops to the list.
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    Rims are indeed eyeleted. I think they're EQ27s, though they say they're "28x599mm" on the rim. They have "Charger" stickers on them, which seem to have come with EQ27s, but don't seem to match the Charger wheel-sets I've found online. In any case, they're eyeleted and seem like quality rims. Should be good to go there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3speed View Post
    Rims are indeed eyeleted. I think they're EQ27s, though they say they're "28x599mm" on the rim. They have "Charger" stickers on them, which seem to have come with EQ27s, but don't seem to match the Charger wheel-sets I've found online. In any case, they're eyeleted and seem like quality rims. Should be good to go there.
    The EQs are decent rims. I've been beating on some EQ23s for a couple of years, and they're holding up nicely.
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