Originally Posted by brett_gt
hi well i was a big bmx er but i wanted to try mountain biking cause it looked so much funner well what bike should i get a specialized hardrock sport disc or a 2005 giant boulder?
Well, you're talking about two bikes in two different price ranges. $230 (Giant) vs $440 (Specialized) MSRP.
In that price range, your talking about the Yukon in the Giant line. And I know this decision personally, since these were my final choices last spring.
IF, you are looking into free-riding hucking, etc... (BMX style mountain biking) I would suggest the Hardrock. That frame is built to take drops. And it is VERY heavy. It also has a lower top tube near the saddle which is important for huckers.
If you want to do pure cross-country riding, the Yukon is lighter and has a speedier frame geometry. Though the Yukon DOES splurge on a Deore Derailleur (teamed with lousy Alivio Shifters).
Both bikes come with bottom of the barrel disc brakes. Though bottom of the barrel discs are still 3 times as nice as super-duper rim brakes.
Both bikes come with lower end drivetrains and shifters.
Both come with the same low end Trutativ crankset (feel lucky mine came with a crappy no name crank that was replaced almost IMMEDIATELY!!!!)
Overall, BOTH of these bikes is a strong contender for the entry level MTB category. If you're a lightweight rider, you should get a season out of either before having to replace components.
Remember that one buys a bike for the frame. Pretty much ANYONE will end up replacing components with something they like better. And if you're going to throw something away, best it be something cheap. You WILL end up replacing the drivetrains on either of these bikes (to SRAM ESP 1:1 if you're smart).
It comes down to the frame. If you're a hucker, the hardrock frame is an excellent (though heavy) workhorse). If your in it for cross-country, the Giant Aluxx-Butted Fluid Form frame is and excellent (and VERY strong) performer.
Oh yeah, there is one more thing ... COLOR. Last years Yukon came in a cool (masculine) Black and Blue.
This years Yukon has gotten a little in touch with it's feminine side coming in a slate blue that could remotely pass for a pastel.
The Hardrock sport is ALL MAN, coming in a green flame job worthy of Jesse Jame's. The hard flame job in green/black or silver/black screams badass. It also comes in a boring but solid blue.
OK, one more bit of advice. It you want to "cut to the chase" and buy a bike close to something respectable. Giant is now offering SRAM on their higher end Rainier model. X.7 Shifters and derailleur. That's all you need for precise "set it and forget it" shifting. Plus Hayes So1e hydros. Plus a MARZOCHI fork as opposed to cheapo Suntour or RST offerings. Color is a bright but respectable blue/white.
I went for the Giant. In restrospect, I should have bought the Rainier. Because I've spent well above what a Rainier WOULD have cost in order to replace cheapo parts that couldn't stand up to a 270 lb rider. Oh yeah, and those Alivio shifters SUCK, SUCK, SUCK!!!!
So if you HAVE the $$$, do yourself a favor and spend it upfront.