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Old 06-22-13, 11:39 AM   #1
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My new mountain bike is 34 pounds....

Specialized camber 29 stock everything...seems heavy to me but what do you guys think?Is 34 pounds heavy for full suspension middle end bike?I'm not complaining its been a lot of fun.Its my first full suspension and my first 29er so i have no reference point.When you spend you 1900.00 you sure cant get everything,this i realize.Again,its been a lot of fun so far.Thanks.
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I got a Scott Spark for $1500. pounds and it weighs 25. But its a 26" kids bike.

The MAIN thing is to have a blast and quit sweating the detail stuff. We have talked weight and the wheel sizes thing to death. Its summer, kick butt with that Camber and post a video or something.
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I got a Scott Spark for $1500. pounds and it weighs 25. But its a 26" kids bike.

The MAIN thing is to have a blast and quit sweating the detail stuff. We have talked weight and the wheel sizes thing to death. Its summer, kick butt with that Camber and post a video or something.
Sound advice....I was just asking.Love how a 29er rolls over everything,its 4 wheel drive.Less beat up on full suspension as well.
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'Less beat up' trumps climbing weight in my book. As Spydie says, ride the crap out of it, use its strengths to your advantage.
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That's probably pretty typical for a $1900 FS 29er. I bought a Giant Trance X 29er 2 which is in that price range. It's about 31.5 lbs.(with pedals but not much else attached to it) which I think is on lighter end of the range at that pricepoint. The other bike I was considering when I bought mine was a Norco Shinobi 3, and it seemed a little heavier than the Trance. Wasn't the weight difference that decided me on the Trance though. Just liked it better overall.

I bought a FS to keep from getting beat up as much, too. It's really worth it to me for that.

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Hmmm. My scale must be off. Bicycling magazine's website review lists the TX 29er 2 at 29.1 lbs for a large. Mine's a medium upgraded to SLX brakes, and it weighed exactly 30 lbs.(without pedals or anything else on it) by my scale.

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My 29er just nips under 30 after I've thrown away the front derailer, shifter and 2 chainrings... I do ride heavy big apples though, so I can save there, and neither my wheels or fork are light. $900 bike.

I've been looking at a chinese carbon frame and fork, and super moto tires instead of the big apples. Add a set of better-than-entry-level easton ea70 xc wheels and I can get it down to 21.something pounds.
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Zen, that sounds like a reasonable weight for a dually at that price.
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Specialized camber 29 stock everything...seems heavy to me but what do you guys think?Is 34 pounds heavy for full suspension middle end bike?I'm not complaining its been a lot of fun.Its my first full suspension and my first 29er so i have no reference point.When you spend you 1900.00 you sure cant get everything,this i realize.Again,its been a lot of fun so far.Thanks.
You weigh your bike? Really?

It's a "lot of fun" so why worry about the weight?

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I don't know how much my bike weighs
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paradigm, some of us are just curious that way.

FWIW, my Kona Coiler Supreme checks in at about 36.5, give or take; rides as well as anything I've ever ridden!
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my 29er hardtail weighs that much. enjoy riding it and see what breaks, replace as needed.
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paradigm, some of us are just curious that way.
No way! Really?
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No way! Really?
I even bring saddles, peddles and bars into the office and weigh them on the mail meter. I know, pathetic...........
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I even bring saddles, peddles and bars into the office and weigh them on the mail meter. I know, pathetic...........
I agree 100%.
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^^ Haha, I was gram-counting on a 41.5 lb. rig last season. And I'd have shaved about another half-lb. off if I could've found a Ti spring for what I wanted to pay for one. Never thought you'd ever catch ME weighing bike parts
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Just ride it like you stole it and have fun.
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I got a 31 pound Scott Aspect 29er HT, works for me, I never notice any weight problem. If I get tired climbing a hill I pedal harder XD
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So dumb question I know... but what is the point of a hard tail 29er if its so much heavier than a full suspension 26er? My Superlight only weighs around 30 lbs... I would think the point of a hardtail is to lighten up weight. I believe my Stumpjumper hardtail was only around 24 - 25 lbs...of course it was not a big ole 29er...
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... but what is the point of a hard tail 29er?
My question exactly .
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So dumb question I know... but what is the point of a hard tail 29er if its so much heavier than a full suspension 26er?
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#1 . Location Central Florida
#2 . His bike is an "affordable" 29er (meaning it was around $700 and has a bunch of heavy, low end components hanging on a heavy, durable frame)
#3 An "entry level" 29er hardtail in the $1400 range is 27lbs.
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So dumb question I know... but what is the point of a hard tail 29er if its so much heavier than a full suspension 26er? My Superlight only weighs around 30 lbs... I would think the point of a hardtail is to lighten up weight. I believe my Stumpjumper hardtail was only around 24 - 25 lbs...of course it was not a big ole 29er...
Cost?

Also, my 26" hardtail is ~8lbs heavier than my FS 26". I think my 24" SS is heavier too. The point of them is not to lighten up weight. Clearly, it's to loan to other people who ride faster than me, duh.
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So dumb question I know... but what is the point of a hard tail 29er if its so much heavier than a full suspension 26er? My Superlight only weighs around 30 lbs... I would think the point of a hardtail is to lighten up weight. I believe my Stumpjumper hardtail was only around 24 - 25 lbs...of course it was not a big ole 29er...
From a comfort point of view I understand your question. But from a speed point of view, the 29er tire hits low obstacles at a smaller angle and therefore rolls over them better (meaning you will decelerate less). The full suspension 26er may soak up the vertical component of the impact even better than the HT 29er, but for the horizontal component the 29er is (in theory) better.

I bought a 29er because I desired one, and the bike you desire to ride is always a good investment.
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I notice weight when maneuvering the bike more than climbing, probably because I suck at climbing regardless of bike weight.

I do notice the effort in chucking a 35 pound bike through transitions compared to a bike 5 or 10 pounds lighter. And not that I do it often, but if you take a 24" BMX on singletrack, that's an eye opening experience.
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My hardtail 29'er is more fluid than my old, antiquated FS 26'er was. Our foothill trails here in Boise are smooth, flowy, and non-technical. And the HT weighs about 7 lbs less than the mini-wheel did. And it shreds the gnar. Moar.
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Our foothill trails here in Boise are smooth, flowy, and non-technical . . . it shreds the gnar.
But how do you know this with no gnar to shred?


Seriously, if I was stuck living in Boise, I think I'd buy a moto or just shoot myself.



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The "gnar" is a figment of our own imaginations. That fast, flowy trail is equivalent to anything up in Whistler, IMO. Maybe even moar treacherous. And I SHRED IT!!!!
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