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Old 07-10-13, 11:09 PM   #1
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Please help???

I'm trying to decided which bike to get. Ive narrowed it down to a (Motobecane Fantom Comp Ds) or (Motobecane Fantom Elite Ds). The elite is 200$ more than the comp. My question is is the Elite worth the extra 200$ when comparing the specs. I know a lot of people are not big fans of the Motobecane bikes but I rode one for the last couple days and loved it. Thanks for the help. Below are links to both bike and the specs.

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...comp_ds_xi.htm

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...FSZp7AodhicAyA
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Old 07-11-13, 08:10 AM   #2
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well, it annoys me that neither bike has shimano brakes, since they have shimano drivetrains. that just reeks of cost cutting.

IMHO I wouldn't pay $200 more for the other bike. it is not enough of an upgrade to be worth it. you will want that $200 savings if you need to change the saddle, stem, pedals, bars, grips. these touch points are commonly swapped if you have favorites, or you might have to find a new favorite if the stock stuff doesn't work for you.
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I'd steer clear of either. Amalgamation of decent parts hung on a ****ty catalog frame; meh.
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I would rather buy something else, as well. But I do have strong beliefs about what's the minimum fork you can ride with, and it's hard to get that fork in any new bike cheaper than BD.

Personally, I'd look for a lightly used bike rather than new BD. However that requires a lot of knowledge about what the heck you're looking for and buying, which few people have, and many who don't rush to BF and open thread after thread after thread...

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Haha, I guess I shouldn't have done that. <Alt> 0161 in the ASCII character set is an upside-down exclamation point. Shhhh.
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Sounds to me like you are "kinda new" to mountain biking and enjoying it. We all do. Quality costs as you are already considering. Either bike would be enjoyable and you would gt a ton of fun from them. But if you shop around, you may find better options.

For the price of the Elite I picked up a used (3 season old) Scott FS with XT/XTR components. I even got him to toss in a chain and Egg Beaters. Take a couple weeks to shop around.
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For the price of the Elite I picked up a used (3 season old) Scott FS with XT/XTR components. I even got him to toss in a chain and Egg Beaters. Take a couple weeks to shop around.
Bingo! That is a perfect example. Now, I would consider such a find to be a home run. A double will suffice. There are many, many great bikes on Ebay and if you live in a well-populated area with MTBing, you might even have luck on CL.

NOT MY AD. Quick example of a good ebay bike: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trek-Fuel-EX...item3f26fdeafb
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Tony-please consider the bike Colin listed. That saves you a few bucks and picks up a quality ride-hopefully. I know that buying off of ebay can be scary. But in 5 years on this thread there are people who love BD and then a couple haters. I did pick up a Road bike off ebay. It wasn't packed as well as I would have preferred. But I haven't had to replace anything on it. It has been awesome.
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Tony-please consider the bike Colin listed.
With one caveat...it's the right size. It's only a good deal if it fits.
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With one caveat...it's the right size. It's only a good deal if it fits.
yes, it's a 17", which is waaaay too small for me, but if you want an aggressive ride and you're below 5'10" it works.

there are many others. because Trek sells a boatload of them, the Fuel Ex 8 is an easy example to find online that has good components and a good frame. if you start to look for more exotic choices, prices go way up and availability goes way down.
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Thank you everyone for the replies. I think I will do a little more shopping around like everyone said. I used to race motocross and now that im getting a little older I want to do something a little bit on the safer side haha! Im 6ft tall so I don't know that the trek on ebay would fit me but it does look like a nice bike. Im from ohio so there isn't a huge mountain bike scene here and not a lot of bikes for sale nearby. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Im looking to stay in the 1200$ or range unless its a really great deal I may go a little higher.... Thanks again everyone
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6' would make the 17" too short. 19" is probably a better fit size.
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You are right about the sizing, Tony. The typical, average-proportioned 6'0" tall man will want a MTB bigger than 17". Typically 18.5" - 20" depending on the bike's specific geometry. I'd go check out some bikes at a local shop and see if they can make you a deal. Even if not, you'll know a lot more about bicycles after trying out a few. Of course, riding a MTB in a parking lot is nothing like taking it to a trail, so if you do get serious about a local bike, rent or borrow it and take it out for a real test.

Several of the regulars also raced / rode MX as well, including me. Mountainbiking is safer and cheaper from my perspective. (Although you can spend a lot on any hobby, if you are so inclined.) Welcome to Bikeforums!
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