it is poor etiquette, in my opinion...
#1
one less horse
Thread Starter
it is poor etiquette, in my opinion...
...to ask someone "ooh, how much did that cost?"
Some people are in situations where they get stuff around wholesale cost (or even lower, e.g employee purchase). Some people score big in the used market, for example, buying stuff from friends and sponsored riders at seasons' end. Or, as in my case, perhaps the person doesn't want to remember exactly how much money they've spent on their bike habit. Whatever the reason, chances are if the person doesn't mention what he paid for the item, he probably can't or doesn't feel like telling you.
And to those who ask: If you're truly interested in the item, I'm sure you will do thorough research on it, right? MSRP is readily available. If that fails, there's always ebay.
(I didn't ride today, and I'm a bit grumpy, can you tell?)
Some people are in situations where they get stuff around wholesale cost (or even lower, e.g employee purchase). Some people score big in the used market, for example, buying stuff from friends and sponsored riders at seasons' end. Or, as in my case, perhaps the person doesn't want to remember exactly how much money they've spent on their bike habit. Whatever the reason, chances are if the person doesn't mention what he paid for the item, he probably can't or doesn't feel like telling you.
And to those who ask: If you're truly interested in the item, I'm sure you will do thorough research on it, right? MSRP is readily available. If that fails, there's always ebay.
(I didn't ride today, and I'm a bit grumpy, can you tell?)
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 205
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
For some that may be true. But for others they like to tell how much they spend because 1) they want to inform others about their deal or 2) they think the worth of their bike indicates their worth as a person.
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Parrish, FL
Posts: 7,963
Bikes: Lots
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I always ask, "if you don't mind my asking...." first. If they answer with something vague like, "a lot, or a bunch" I figure they do in fact mind.
If they do, that's fine. Some people are sensitive about stuff like that.
If they do, that's fine. Some people are sensitive about stuff like that.
__________________
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "WOW, What a Ride!" - unknown
"Your Bike Sucks" - Sky Yaeger
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "WOW, What a Ride!" - unknown
"Your Bike Sucks" - Sky Yaeger
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 205
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by a2psyklnut
I always ask, "if you don't mind my asking...." first. If they answer with something vague like, "a lot, or a bunch" I figure they do in fact mind.
#5
Giggity giggity!
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Danville, Ca
Posts: 1,800
Bikes: Yeti DJ Custom build. X.9, Marzocchi, RaceFace, Gamut, DT, Truvativ, Michelin, Hope.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
gastro - I thought your username was gastronemicus or something. **********
#6
Wood Licker
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Whistler,BC
Posts: 16,966
Bikes: Trek Fuel EX 8 27.5 +, 2002 Transition Dirtbag, Kona Roast 2002
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
He changed it.
It never bothers me, but, the way I was taught was never to ask, so I generally don't
It never bothers me, but, the way I was taught was never to ask, so I generally don't
#7
Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 45
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I dont think its bad to ask, especially if you say"if you dont mind me asking" . But you should not get mad if person says no and does not answer you or lies , and if they tell you , then fine too
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Worcester, Mass
Posts: 306
Bikes: Giant Anthem, Giant TCR 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
If I get a smokin' deal on ebay then I'll usually say how much it costs me, but if I buy something new I will just answer with a vague answer, usually "too much" or something along those lines.
#9
Throw the stick!!!!
It doesn't bother me when people ask but I usually can't tell them. I get most of my stuff via employee purchase so it really wouldn't be right for me to tell someone how much I paid. Therefore when someone asks I generally just say "it retails for .....".
__________________
I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.
#10
Reckless Rider
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 29
Bikes: 2 Konas, 1 Santa Cruz, 1 Surly, 1 Cannondale, 1 Schwinn
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I think if you don't know someone its kind of rude. Your friends are one thing. The ol "if you don't mind thing" helps but truth be told I don't want people to know what I paid. I usually don't tell if its a bike I got hooked up on. If its a price that I can get for someone from a shop or something than I tell. Sometimes tho the price is exculsive to me. (Being hansome and all) Just Kidding
#11
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: seattle
Posts: 1,083
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I always thought there was no such thing as a stupid question. I'll ask anything I feel like, if a person doesn't want to answer, I don't have a problem with that.
I have two bikes, a mtn. bike and a bmx bike. most of the stuff on my bmx bike I didn't pay full retail price for. and some I didn't pay for at all. the reason is, I have been riding for 25 odd years and know a lot of people in the industry. they give me deals or give me parts to test or whatever.
why would you feel bad or weird that you don't get the same deals as me? If I didn't know people, I would pay full retail price like everyone else.
I have two bikes, a mtn. bike and a bmx bike. most of the stuff on my bmx bike I didn't pay full retail price for. and some I didn't pay for at all. the reason is, I have been riding for 25 odd years and know a lot of people in the industry. they give me deals or give me parts to test or whatever.
why would you feel bad or weird that you don't get the same deals as me? If I didn't know people, I would pay full retail price like everyone else.
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: colonial heights Va
Posts: 1,200
Bikes: Devinci Guzzler, 04 Canadian version
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
If someone asks Ill answer unless Im not proud of the price I paid. when I got my first bike I wanted people to ask. the next 2 were "I got a great deal" and the one I just got im so proud of I want everyone to know about the company , the specs and the price for it because Im a proud owner that got a good deal. some people were turned off by my answer but they asked.they were the ones who didnt understand XT vs falcon or bike shop vs walmart. plus my Devinci is the best bike Ive ever had. I go to places Id have never even thought of before and the bike says"thats it?bring me more "
#13
Ex Go-Kart racer
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PA
Posts: 727
Bikes: Trek Bruiser 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
What if someone is interested in getting into biking or the specific part you had? I think that it is kind of rude not to tell them. If they have a good reason to ask then I think its fine, if they are just asking for the hell of it then I could see you considering it rude.
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Worcester, Mass
Posts: 306
Bikes: Giant Anthem, Giant TCR 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by bruiser2
What if someone is interested in getting into biking or the specific part you had? I think that it is kind of rude not to tell them. If they have a good reason to ask then I think its fine, if they are just asking for the hell of it then I could see you considering it rude.
#15
Ex Go-Kart racer
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PA
Posts: 727
Bikes: Trek Bruiser 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I understand that you would tell them what the general public would have to pay, but i still think you should tell them, and I wouldnt consider it bad etiquette.
#16
I drink your MILKSHAKE
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Posts: 15,061
Bikes: 2003 Specialized Rockhopper FSR Comp, 1999 Specialized Hardrock Comp FS, 1971 Schwinn Varsity
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
Originally Posted by bruiser2
I understand that you would tell them what the general public would have to pay, but i still think you should tell them, and I wouldnt consider it bad etiquette.
#17
Old School Rad
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The old Mountains
Posts: 8,206
Bikes: Blur LT
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I have a friend that's a pro and I hit him up for freebies all the time.Not really it's kind of a running joke. He gets his stuff for free to race with and some folks think he can just give it away.
__________________
Like a circus monkey on a stolen Harley......
Like a circus monkey on a stolen Harley......
#18
Wood Licker
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Whistler,BC
Posts: 16,966
Bikes: Trek Fuel EX 8 27.5 +, 2002 Transition Dirtbag, Kona Roast 2002
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
Originally Posted by mtnbiker66
I have a friend that's a pro and I hit him up for freebies all the time.Not really it's kind of a running joke. He gets his stuff for free to race with and some folks think he can just give it away.
#19
Gravity Is Yer Friend
Join Date: May 2002
Location: "Over the Hill" and going down fast in the 805.
Posts: 2,961
Bikes: Scott Gambler, Scott Ransom, Kona Bear, Bianchi 928 Carbon/Chorus, C'Dale Rize4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Hahaha!!! I just tell them, "A lot less then you could get it/them for." Then they always ask if I could get them the same deal and I just say no. ;P
#21
a badass heeb on wheels
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Santa Cruz, California
Posts: 219
Bikes: Santa Cruz Chameleon
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I never ask how much something was unless I am thinking of buying that thing.
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Parrish, FL
Posts: 7,963
Bikes: Lots
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by dirtbikedude
Hahaha!!! I just tell them, "A lot less then you could get it/them for." Then they always ask if I could get them the same deal and I just say no. ;P
DBD, where you been? Fatherhood keeping you busy???
Nice to see you posting.
__________________
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "WOW, What a Ride!" - unknown
"Your Bike Sucks" - Sky Yaeger
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "WOW, What a Ride!" - unknown
"Your Bike Sucks" - Sky Yaeger
#23
<<<<>>>>
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Kansas City, Missouri USA
Posts: 151
Bikes: 2004 Kona Caldera "stock"
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by pnj
I always thought there was no such thing as a stupid question.
Etiquette wise... You should never ask what things cost. It's rude. Personally it doesn't bother me but I do not ask.
#24
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: seattle
Posts: 1,083
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I'm 34. and of course there are times to not ask some questions. but when it comes to bicycle components, I don't think it's wrong to ask another rider what they paid.
I think it's foolish for one rider to expect to get the same deal as another rider though.
people get deals for all kinds of reasons
1. work for a shop/distributor
2. ride for a shop/distributor
3. is really good friends with shop/distributor
4. is really good friends with a sponsored rider
5. other unknow reasons
we all know how much bike parts cost retail. and we would all pay that price if we wanted a given item. if you don't fit into the above criteria you pay retail.
I don't see what the big deal is. I don't have the ability or option of getting anyone else the deals I get so I don't worry about that (as some have mentioned in this thread, not wanting to say where they work, etc.) but on the other hand, I can't control someone elses feelings when they decide they are going to feel bad/sad/mad that they can't get the same deal someone else does.
should a sponsored rider not say they are sponsored? should they not say they get some stuff for free or at a reduced price for whatever reason they get it for?
it's bike parts......
I think it's foolish for one rider to expect to get the same deal as another rider though.
people get deals for all kinds of reasons
1. work for a shop/distributor
2. ride for a shop/distributor
3. is really good friends with shop/distributor
4. is really good friends with a sponsored rider
5. other unknow reasons
we all know how much bike parts cost retail. and we would all pay that price if we wanted a given item. if you don't fit into the above criteria you pay retail.
I don't see what the big deal is. I don't have the ability or option of getting anyone else the deals I get so I don't worry about that (as some have mentioned in this thread, not wanting to say where they work, etc.) but on the other hand, I can't control someone elses feelings when they decide they are going to feel bad/sad/mad that they can't get the same deal someone else does.
should a sponsored rider not say they are sponsored? should they not say they get some stuff for free or at a reduced price for whatever reason they get it for?
it's bike parts......
#25
Gravity Is Yer Friend
Join Date: May 2002
Location: "Over the Hill" and going down fast in the 805.
Posts: 2,961
Bikes: Scott Gambler, Scott Ransom, Kona Bear, Bianchi 928 Carbon/Chorus, C'Dale Rize4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by a2psyklnut
DBD, where you been? Fatherhood keeping you busy???
Nice to see you posting.
Nice to see you posting.