DinoShepherd

I am going to be replacing the some 7 year old XTR shifters/der. on my mountain scooter. (just plain tired)

Definitely want to go with trigger style (either Shimano pods or SRAM triggers) as the new STI mountain stuff doesn't do a thing for me.

Shimano continues to piss me off in their neverending quest to obsolete perfectly good stuff, but that's another story.

So the question is, if I go SRAM stuff, does the 1:1 stuff work better than the 1:2 (Shimano spec) stuff. I mean, is it more resistant to being slightly out of adjustment or dirty?

-Z

Maelstrom 

Personally I prefer SRAm 1:1. Feels crisper and doesn't bounce around as much. I also prefer the shifting pods.

arwin

I prefer the 1:1. I ride in a lot of mud. I think the 1:1 employs a stronger spring. This helps the derailleur return better when releasing tension. Especially in muddy conditions. It also seems to me setting up the SRAM stuff takes less adjusting, but not a lot.

Raiyn

If you're going to go SRAM go all the way. While the 1:2 stuff works fine the 1:1 stuff is that much crisper

Hunter

YES!! Just say "shimaNO!!

arwin

I also prefer the trigger shifters. About a year ago I installed X.9 triggers and they have been very reliable. The grip shifts are fine, but for me they just don't work ergonomically. The collar bangs into the knuckle on my thumb causing blisters even through gloves. Most people don't have that problem and seem to prefer the gripshifts.

phantomcow2

I hate gripshifts. But since i tried the triggers i have been more than happy. plus, you can get a x.7 derailleur+the pair of triggers for 85 bucks. Much cheaper than XT

Hunter

XO triggers will be out this summer they look pretty sweet.

arwin

I guess I had better amend my earlier post to "...many people don't have problems with gripshift." I thought I was the only one. I agree with the comment about the X.7's I kind feel like I spent more than I needed to for the X.9's There doesn't appear to be that much difference between X.7's and X.9's other than color. I haven't seen the X.0 triggers yet. Probably a few gms. lighter and with a nifty fiber carbon print to the finish

phantomcow2

As far as i know there is absolutely no difference between the performance of the x.9 and x.7. I believe the the x.9 is 20 grams lighter, it comes with sealed bearings for the pulley. So its up to you if its worth the extra 20 dollars

DinoShepherd

The brain trust has spoken. X9 triggers it is.

steveknight

if you shop around yo ucan get the x9 rd and shifters for 99.00 I paid 120 then found them cheaper (G)

phantomcow2

I wouldnt even get the x.9, save your pennies and go x.7, theres no differnet worth mentioning in my opinion

willtsmith_nwi

I'm AMAZED. Not a single person will front for Shimano.

What is even MORE amazing to me is that so few bike companies are shipping SRAM 1:1 ESP on their bikes.

Perhaps this will change now that SRAM can compete product for product with Shimano (ala Avid, Trutativ (still some work to do here)).

Maelstrom 

Avid rules the mech disc brake market.
Their hydros are odd but will start competing I am sure.
Truvativ, has a following already, but really I will always buy fsa.

SRAM is an aftermarket company with a large following (which is growing)...good to see.

Hopper

To be honest, yes I like the feel of SRAM, but shimano has never stuffed me over and it feels crisp on my bike, then again I'm running a road derailleur. However when you go to XTR to XT you are paying to lose weight in the component and I beleive that the X0 is lighter. However I have nothing against shimano and would/do use them and if you want to be different to everyone else it has almost got to the stage that using shimano WILL make you different to everyone else because they use SRAM.

notfred

The X.9 stuff on my mountain bike doesn't really feel much differnet than the LX stuff on my utility/town/commuter bike. That's not to say the X.9 is bad... they both shift very reliably for me, as long as I don't bend the derailleur hangers.