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Old 04-11-05, 08:35 AM   #1
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slip and slide = ?

Yesterday I went on a schweet 4 hour epic ride. This trail had everything! I noticed that on my gradual decents, both of my tires slid everywhere while applying 70% brake. Granted the terrain was loose rock, is the slipping a result of skinny tires with bad grip? My friend had a set of 2.7s and he didnt slip on any of the sections that I did. My tires are 2.1's. Any ideas?





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Other than the obvious????
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I'd go 1.5 Slicks, but thats just me
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Other than the obvious????
Which would be...?
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Bigger tires.
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Those other guys dont know anything....
They think its the tires........
Obviously if its happening under 70% braking Just dont apply the brakes.
If the are 'V' brakes maybe you could disconnect them before he more brutal, gnarly
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is the slipping a result of skinny tires with bad grip? My friend had a set of 2.7s and he didnt slip on any of the sections that I did. My tires are 2.1's. Any ideas?
Seemed pretty obvious to me.

Other than bigger tires, you could try lowering your tire pressure.

Over the years I've found that a tonne of riders both experienced and newbies run too high of pressure. Try dropping the p.s.i. in 2 to 3 psi increments.
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Way to throw out the insults...brilliant...

I was pointing out what a2 was refering to as obvious. There are many other potentials. Better turning techniques and braking. All of them would be guessing as he is describing himself turning. We don't know what it is. You guess is a good as anyones. If you don't think bigger tires don't play a role, you are kidding yourself. Body position is another one, if this is a dh type course with berms you want to be balanced over the front more than the rear, this gives the front wheel the traction it needs to turn. Don't brake in corners only before and then accelerate after, bigger tires help maintain a bigger footprint which also assist in turning.

BTW the reason why not braking helps in turning, a spinning wheel has traction, a lockd wheel doesn't. If you ride a dually, as I explained in the other thread, it affects the suspension also. In all cases, don't brake in corners.

Sounds like you should ask your friend how he is riding, it sounds like his overall technique is more solid. But don't listen to me, some cartoon is telling you I don't know anything..
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Way to throw out the insults...brilliant...

But don't listen to me, some cartoon is telling you I don't know anything..
That was supposed to be subtle humor. .....
If you have problems with the brakes, dont brake....Ahhhhh, nevermind!...I guess you had to be there
You know way more about this stuff than I ever will so please dont ever interprit anything I say
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Understood ..

Try the winky face, usually gets the sarcasm across
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