Mud
#1
la vache fantôme
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NH
Posts: 6,266
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Mud
I ment to Kingman farm today to put in a few good miles. Everything was all nice and dandy, beautiful weather. Blue sky, not a cloud in there. Probably in the high 60's ot even 70. I was going and after a few miles in i came across a rather large pond which extended well beyond the width of the trail. So i figure its just water, I can survive being wet. So as soon as my fronmt tire enters this i sink down another 6 or 7 inches in MUD. I found i could not go through this mud on the bike so yes i had to get off and look for little stepping stones to cross it. It was probably for about 20 feet. I would hit a mud patch here and there after there for a little. Then it got to the point where it was 20 foot mud blob after 20 foot mud blob. After 3 of these i said screw it and turned back and stuck to the field.
So how do you deal with mud? Is plowing through mud past 4 inches a lost cause or what?
So how do you deal with mud? Is plowing through mud past 4 inches a lost cause or what?
__________________
C://dos
C://dos.run
run.dos.run
C://dos
C://dos.run
run.dos.run
#2
DEADBEEF
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Posts: 12,234
Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
4 Posts
I've been in mud up to my hubs before and by that point, I just get off and walk it... usually carrying the bike. If the trails are really muddy all over the place, I generally choose to turn around and not ride it to avoid causing extensive erosion. I generally wait a few days after a big rain before I ride the trails to allow them to dry out first.
__________________
1999 K2 OzM 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
1999 K2 OzM 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
#3
Wood Licker
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Whistler,BC
Posts: 16,966
Bikes: Trek Fuel EX 8 27.5 +, 2002 Transition Dirtbag, Kona Roast 2002
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
Throw it in an easy gear and pedal. Gets me through almost anything if it is like sand or mud.
Usuaully if I know it is there, I plow full speed into it with an easy gear and then pedal my way out.
Speaking of erosion, never pedal around the puddle, that the best way to create more erosion. If you are gonna ride it, go through it.
Usuaully if I know it is there, I plow full speed into it with an easy gear and then pedal my way out.
Speaking of erosion, never pedal around the puddle, that the best way to create more erosion. If you are gonna ride it, go through it.
#4
Old School Rad
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The old Mountains
Posts: 8,206
Bikes: Blur LT
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I put on a snorkel and goggels and pedal hard!!
__________________
Like a circus monkey on a stolen Harley......
Like a circus monkey on a stolen Harley......
#5
la vache fantôme
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NH
Posts: 6,266
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
well they were not muddy all over the place. It was just patches of mud, but as i went deeper into the woods they became much more abundant. If i had known i would not have even entered the woody area
__________________
C://dos
C://dos.run
run.dos.run
C://dos
C://dos.run
run.dos.run
#6
Perpetual n00b
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Farmington, NM
Posts: 3,918
Bikes: '18 Kona Explosif, '18 Sunday Primer BMX, Giant Roam (ss converted), Old Peugeot (SS converted, broken)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
1 Post
You have to come here and try and ride in this mud. Evil, I tell you.
It sticks to your tire like glue, and before you know it, your tire is 5 inches wide and wont clear the frame or fork. You can go about 10 feet before you have to stop and pull the mud out. Then it's glued on to the bike if you dont wash it off while it's still wet...
It sticks to your tire like glue, and before you know it, your tire is 5 inches wide and wont clear the frame or fork. You can go about 10 feet before you have to stop and pull the mud out. Then it's glued on to the bike if you dont wash it off while it's still wet...
#7
SNIKT!
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Home for wayward mutants
Posts: 1,560
Bikes: '06 Kona Dawg Deluxe/'06 Cannondale F400(frame)/'98 Cannondale SuperV1000
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Maelstrom
Throw it in an easy gear and pedal. Gets me through almost anything if it is like sand or mud.
Usuaully if I know it is there, I plow full speed into it with an easy gear and then pedal my way out.
Speaking of erosion, never pedal around the puddle, that the best way to create more erosion. If you are gonna ride it, go through it.
Usuaully if I know it is there, I plow full speed into it with an easy gear and then pedal my way out.
Speaking of erosion, never pedal around the puddle, that the best way to create more erosion. If you are gonna ride it, go through it.
That's how I do it. If it's really bad, I've noticed that bouncing a little on my FS seems to help get me through, too. Of course, after a ride like that I have to hose myself off before my wife will let me in the house.
__________________
I like pie!
"The bright flicker of our television screens is the stolen incandescence of a thousand young minds." - Theodore W. Gray
"you taught us to fish while so many others were handing out tuna sandwiches" - Ziggurat
I like pie!
"The bright flicker of our television screens is the stolen incandescence of a thousand young minds." - Theodore W. Gray
"you taught us to fish while so many others were handing out tuna sandwiches" - Ziggurat
#8
Withdrawal Symptoms!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cornwall UK
Posts: 1,258
Bikes: Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc 2004 And identit Dr Jekyll
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Ive been in mud/splurge up to the top of my wheels, didnt think it waas very deep, maybe 5-6 inches, got to the middle and sunk, jumped off and lost my shoe in it.. I wasnt very Happy
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 87
Bikes: SC superlight, CK hs/wheels, XT, Race Face, blah blah blah
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
The mud where I live is a sort of clay. It feels like mud, it looks like mud, but it doesn't free itself from the fork arch, brakes, tires, etc. If I do go through it and its deep enough, I have to dismount and pull off chunks to be able to make any forward progress.
Another thing is it is very slippery. I was riding yesterday and had to be extremely careful because the patches of mud are hard to see 3-4 days after a rain. Careful means riding straight, because it your front wheel is turned at all when you're going 25mph and hit a patch of this stuff, you hit the ground sliding. Bad times.
Long story short, if its deeper than the tires, I walk it.
Another thing is it is very slippery. I was riding yesterday and had to be extremely careful because the patches of mud are hard to see 3-4 days after a rain. Careful means riding straight, because it your front wheel is turned at all when you're going 25mph and hit a patch of this stuff, you hit the ground sliding. Bad times.
Long story short, if its deeper than the tires, I walk it.
#10
SNIKT!
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Home for wayward mutants
Posts: 1,560
Bikes: '06 Kona Dawg Deluxe/'06 Cannondale F400(frame)/'98 Cannondale SuperV1000
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by gregseto
The mud where I live is a sort of clay. It feels like mud, it looks like mud, but it doesn't free itself from the fork arch, brakes, tires, etc. If I do go through it and its deep enough, I have to dismount and pull off chunks to be able to make any forward progress.
Another thing is it is very slippery. I was riding yesterday and had to be extremely careful because the patches of mud are hard to see 3-4 days after a rain. Careful means riding straight, because it your front wheel is turned at all when you're going 25mph and hit a patch of this stuff, you hit the ground sliding. Bad times.
Long story short, if its deeper than the tires, I walk it.
Another thing is it is very slippery. I was riding yesterday and had to be extremely careful because the patches of mud are hard to see 3-4 days after a rain. Careful means riding straight, because it your front wheel is turned at all when you're going 25mph and hit a patch of this stuff, you hit the ground sliding. Bad times.
Long story short, if its deeper than the tires, I walk it.
Yeah, we've got a lot of stuff like that. Barely adjust your steering and you're fighting to stay upright. Good times if you keep from goin' down.
__________________
I like pie!
"The bright flicker of our television screens is the stolen incandescence of a thousand young minds." - Theodore W. Gray
"you taught us to fish while so many others were handing out tuna sandwiches" - Ziggurat
I like pie!
"The bright flicker of our television screens is the stolen incandescence of a thousand young minds." - Theodore W. Gray
"you taught us to fish while so many others were handing out tuna sandwiches" - Ziggurat
#11
♋ ☮♂ ☭ ☯
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 40205 'ViLLeBiLLie
Posts: 7,902
Bikes: Sngl Spd's, 70's- 80's vintage, D-tube Folder
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
Originally Posted by Maelstrom
Throw it in an easy gear and pedal. Gets me through almost anything if it is like sand or mud.
Usuaully if I know it is there, I plow full speed into it with an easy gear and then pedal my way out.
Speaking of erosion, never pedal around the puddle, that the best way to create more erosion. If you are gonna ride it, go through it.
Usuaully if I know it is there, I plow full speed into it with an easy gear and then pedal my way out.
Speaking of erosion, never pedal around the puddle, that the best way to create more erosion. If you are gonna ride it, go through it.
On my favorite personal trails there is a 1/4 mile that is terminally wet......about 3" of water just rests on the same amount of sandy mud. Putting it in a gear that might be one too low seems to work well for me because the lower ones spin and makes my shorty P2 (great mud bike! NOT!! ) unstable and more hard to manage. But yeah...I have found what you say works for me, if you see a little one hitiing it hard and letting momentum help out is good....keeping my weight rearward and sort of keeping the front tire unweighted instead of digging in helps too.....I found that I get real tense when the bike starts slipping around and that if I loosen up and just do a little fandango with it its even easier .
I like mudd I enjoy splashing in it and spraying it everywhere !! Now if I could only get creek crossings down......
#12
Back to granite
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Boston
Posts: 244
Bikes: '02 C'dale Jekyll 700, '04 C'dale R1000 Double
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
We all encounter mud at some point, but being from New England, you should check this link to learn a little about mud. Not trying to be a di*k, just offering some advice.
#13
la vache fantôme
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NH
Posts: 6,266
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
I dont think some people understand this. I did not expect mud, i dont go looking for mud. Most of the trail was not muddy. It was 70 degrees and my lawn and the trails which i saw had no mud on them, just dry. I dont go looking for mud
__________________
C://dos
C://dos.run
run.dos.run
C://dos
C://dos.run
run.dos.run
#15
Withdrawal Symptoms!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cornwall UK
Posts: 1,258
Bikes: Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc 2004 And identit Dr Jekyll
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Mud Rocks! Then again, dont really have a choice over here, the only dust we get is when we dust our shelves!
#16
My life be like ooh aah
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Posts: 1,409
Bikes: Giant Boulder SE 2000, Craftworks FRM125 2002
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Wouldn't be used to this then would you
#17
Withdrawal Symptoms!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cornwall UK
Posts: 1,258
Bikes: Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc 2004 And identit Dr Jekyll
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Hehehe, defintely not, i wouldnt know what to do in dust, totally different conditions.
Next trail ride I go on ill find a nice mud patch and post it to you anthonaut, see if you ride in my conditions
Next trail ride I go on ill find a nice mud patch and post it to you anthonaut, see if you ride in my conditions
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,398
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Cornish_Rdr_UK
Mud Rocks! Then again, dont really have a choice over here, the only dust we get is when we dust our shelves!
THEN ... mud is VERY bad.
Seriously folks, if your local trail is THAT bad all year long, you need to form some organization and get to work hardening flood prone areas.
It amazes me that some people will spend countless hours and thousands of dollars on their bike, but they won't drop a single red cent or an ounce of energy working the trails that they rid upon.