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    Throw the stick!!!! LowCel's Avatar
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    Broke down and ordered a new frame.

    Well, I have been riding my Superlight for close to three years now, figure it is about time to retire the poor thing. I did some research and finally decided to order an Ellsworth Truth frame. From what I can tell they have taken care of the problems they were having with breaking so I think this frame should make me happy.

    This bike will be used for about ten races a year including one 24 hour race. The rest of the time it will just be used for xc riding. I want it to be relatively light but reliable.

    I am planning on using the majority of the parts off of my Superlight to build up the Truth.

    Anyway, here is how it is going to be built up.

    18" Truth frame
    White Brothers XC 1.0 fork
    Magura Marta SL brakes
    XT pod shifters w/ display removed
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    XT cassette
    American Classic ISIS bb
    FSA Carbon Pro crankset
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    Continental Explorer & Escape tire
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    Fizik Gobi saddle
    FSA K-Force low rise carbon bar
    Odi lock on grips (don't give me too hard of a time about these)
    FSA Orbit Xtreme Pro
    Crank Bros Candy SL pedals

    Well, what ya think?
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    Bicycle Rider & Mechanic Trekbikedude's Avatar
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    sounds good to me

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    what are you doing with the superlight frame?

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    A buddy of mine has been wanting one for quite a while so I'm going to work out something with him.
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowCel
    XT pod shifters w/ display removed
    Why take the displays off?

    Sounds like a nice build.
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    If you ride somewhat hard, ill pray for you tonight. Ive seen way to many Truths destroyed, and nothing done about it. Dont ride it too hard, and good luck if you need customer service...

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    Thanks Dj. From all that I have read they haven't really had much problems with breaking since the middle of 2003 when they changed the frame. The people that I have talked to that ride the newer frame seem to be very happy with them. From what I understand Ellsworth's customer service has improved drastically as well.

    anthonaut - There are three reasons for removing them. The first reason is that I haven't looked at a shift indicator in years. Second reason every shift indicator I have left on the shifters has ended up breaking in a crash. Last reason the indicators are unnecessary weight, when trying to have a light bike why have pieces on the bike that aren't necessary?

    Anyway, the XT shifters aren't going to be coming into play. I went ahead and ordered a SRAM X.0 rear derailleur and SRAM X.9 trigger shifters. I'm still going to be using the XT front derailleur though.
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DjRider04
    If you ride somewhat hard, ill pray for you tonight. Ive seen way to many Truths destroyed, and nothing done about it. Dont ride it too hard, and good luck if you need customer service...
    Ditto.
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    How many of the frames that you all have seen destroyed have been 2004 or newer?
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    I've seen a couple.
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    Low cell...one more reason (at least for me)...I reverse the order of my brake/shifter. Gives me more leverage on the brake itself by pushing it closer to the middle of my bar.

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    I like the 240's, excellent choice. post after a while how the american classic ISIS BB works if you can, the thing looks pretty neat. I thinm mavic is overpriced but nice wheels i will say. Have fun
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    Thanks maelstrom, hadn't thought of that. To me they just aren't necessary, if I need to know what gear I am in I can just look down. If I can't shift anymore it means that the hill is steep and I need to get out of the saddle and start mashing.

    Phantom, the wheelset is great, I have been using it for a couple of years now. I did crack the rear hub last year but Hugi had no problem replacing it for me. I will post how the American Classic bottom bracket does, I'm looking forward to finding out myself. I just ruined my third Race Face bottom bracket in two years, hopefully the American Classic will be better, if not at least it has replaceable bearings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowCel
    anthonaut - There are three reasons for removing them. The first reason is that I haven't looked at a shift indicator in years. Second reason every shift indicator I have left on the shifters has ended up breaking in a crash. Last reason the indicators are unnecessary weight, when trying to have a light bike why have pieces on the bike that aren't necessary?
    Ahh ok. I couldn't live without mine!
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    I never look at mine either but when I removed them, I didn't like the exposed holes. I guess you could just tape over them but that's pretty unsightly What are you using to cover up the spot there the displays bolt on? Is there a sealed plastic piece made for this?

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    I use a carbon piece that I cut out from one of the lizard skins frame protectors.

    Here is a picture.



    Figure I might as well post a fairwell picture to my Superlight while I am at it. Tomorrow will be it's last race.

    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    sounds like a cool deal to me good luck in that 24 hour race.
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    Hope you do well in the race. Im sure the Superlight has treated you well and be sure to post pics of the new ride!
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    Throw the stick!!!! LowCel's Avatar
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    Well, I guess the Superlight heard all the whispering about me getting rid of her so she decided to show me who was boss at the Race on Sunday. I have never had so many mis-shifts and ghost shifting in my life. I would be going all out in the middle ring, small rear and all of a sudden it would drop to the small front. The rear would just shift whenever it wanted. That last race in the mud really did some damage to my poor drivetrain. I still ended up with an 11th place finish so I can live with that. I was shooting for a top ten, I guess 11th is close enough.

    Anyway, here is the initial build for the Truth, I'm hoping it will come in at under 24.5 pounds.

    18" Truth frame
    White Brothers XC 1.0 fork
    Magura Marta SL brakes
    SRAM X-9 trigger shifters w/ cables
    XT front derailleur
    SRAM X.0 rear derailleur
    XT cassette (11-34)
    SRAM chain (think it's pc69)
    American Classic ISIS bb
    FSA Carbon Pro crankset
    Hugi 240 hubs
    Mavic 317 rims
    XT quick releases
    Stans no-tubes
    Continental Explorer & Escape tire
    Thomson stem & seatpost
    Fizik Gobi saddle
    FSA K-force low rise carbon bar
    Scott foam grips (going to give them a try)
    FSA Orbit Xtreme Pro
    Crank brothers Candy SL pedals
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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