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    Lake Dillon bike path phase 1 completed

    Phase 1 of Swan Mtn bike path opened Monday .
    Summit County has 28,000 residents almost 1% of them were there for ribbon cutting.

    Denver CBS 4 did an excellent job covering this, the video attached to story was on the evening news

    http://cbs4denver.com/topstories/loc...226210406.html

    This is jsut Phase 1 3 phases are left
    The seed money for the project is coming from private donations (matched by colorado great outdoors and others) the article contains a link on how to donate

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    Too bad it's so excruciatingly slow in coming. Looks like at least another 2 years to complete it.

    I've been watching them work on it all summer. Looks like it just dumps right out onto Swan Mtn Road. Wonder how long it'll be until a rider doesn't heed the stop sign (think children) and gets hit by a car coming down the steep road. It's also going to be a problem for some people to get started since getting onto the road you have to cross oncoming traffic going downhill, and then start climbing up, steeply and immediately.

    Are they eventually going to run the path under the road, or will people always have to cross the road to get to the rest of the path? If the former, why didn't they just do that last 20 feet under the road in Phase 1? That way, people would just have to merge into traffic on the correct side instead of crossing first.

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    Agree on concern of safety of the road crossing. I heard that Summit Cycling warned county / forest service a number of times. Don't count on an underpass and progress on last 3 phases will continue to be slow, the funding is coming from private donations not from county. The county is then doing the paper work to get matching funding from great outdoors Colorado ...

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    Like everyone said, the entrance onto Swan Mountain Road does not look safe at all. I'm going to keep on using Swan Mountain Road, but I wonder how many times I'm going to hear "get on the bike path" when I do.

    I'd like to see 18 wheelers and other large trucks banned from Swan Mountain Road, life would be more pleasant for everyone then.

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    from letters to editor summit daily news

    Norman Stoller
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    August 20, 2007
    Along with a couple of hundred of my Summit Biking buddies, I had the pleasure of riding the newest addition to the county's world class bike paths. The new trail is superb by almost any measure. I can't wait for Part II (end of the new section to Sapphire Point), and Part III (Sapphire Point to the High School) to be completed.

    Prior to the (recent) ribbon cutting ceremony, one of the county commissioners alluded to the fact that the commissioners thought that this project should continue to be funded by donations and grants rather than using public funds. I would respectfully disagree with them on this point. It would seem to me that this is precisely the type of project for which public monies should be used. After all a completed path benefits nearly every one in the county; those that actually use the path, those who drive Swan Mountain Road and no longer have to worry about avoiding bikers and those who benefit from satisfied tourists and the cash that they infuse into the local economy.

    It would seem to me that we would all benefit from having the path completed sooner rather than later. I would also add that the one obvious drawback to the current plans for the path, i.e. the fact that it will require a relatively dangerous crossing of the highway, could be more expeditiously managed if public funds were made available. Why not have a countywide bond or better still, a one time increase in the mil levy to fund this project?

    I would be interested in hearing what the taxpaying citizens and elected officials of Summit County think about this proposal. Perhaps we could utilize this forum to get the discussion started.

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    I can't say I'm a big fan.

    Blind corners, steep grades and families with little cycling skill = disaster. Besides, there was nothing wrong with Swan Mtn. road that a little shoulder widening and paving wouldn't have solved.
    Last edited by telenick; 08-22-07 at 04:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telenick View Post
    I can't say I'm a big fan.

    Blind corners, steep grades and tourons = disaster. Besides, there was nothing wrong with Swan Mtn. road that a little shoulder widening and paving wouldn't have solved.

    Bob Guthrie and company are great cycling advocates and watch dogs for Summit. That's a good thing. But their efforts and my community's revenues are wasted on expensive dangerous crap like this.

    Oh, and even the mention of a tunnel or bridge...?? You have got to be kidding me. Either that or you have no concept of the construction costs involved in that type of solution.
    Lots of bike paths in the Denver area have tunnels/bridges. Don't know the costs but it's not unheard of.

    Drove by the new bike path last weekend while on a camping trip and I was struck by how steep it was immediately off Swan Mtn Road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by telenick View Post
    I can't say I'm a big fan.

    Blind corners, steep grades and families with little cycling skill = disaster. Besides, there was nothing wrong with Swan Mtn. road that a little shoulder widening and paving wouldn't have solved.
    Wouldn't shoulder widening require a shoulder to begin with?

    I only get up there a few times a year but always try to make it early in the morning when going over Swan, the path is less crowded, the air is cool, and all is well in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvfrompc View Post
    Wouldn't shoulder widening require a shoulder to begin with?

    I only get up there a few times a year but always try to make it early in the morning when going over Swan, the path is less crowded, the air is cool, and all is well in the world.
    There's a narrow shoulder on the steeper parts. I honestly think that Swan Mountain Road is quite rideable, and staying on Swan Mountain Road is probably going to be safer than trying to use the bike path with that scary transition onto the road. Anyone who can't ride safely on Swan Mountain Road probably won't be too safe on the new bike path, either.

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    I drove by the infamous section yesterday. It does appear that someone in government recognized the dangerousness of the dumpout of the path right into the road. On both approaches of the road to the path a few hundred meters out, they have installed blinking lights with bicycle signs. Then they painted a crosswalk on the road and additional bike signs with fluorescent flags denoting the area.

    The crosswalk is odd in that cars are not instructed to stop for them. More of an optional type of stop it seems. Still, at least someone in government is paying attention. I suppose the lights are the county's donation to the cause...

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    I had the pleasure of riding the new path for the first time last wknd, and I enjoyed it. However, I agree that where it dumps out isn't exactly ideal. It'd almost be safer to be already riding up the road there than to have to take a left turn onto it. Still, nice to see they're still focused on getting more bike paths in. I wish more counties in Colorado were like that.
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    I wonder if they'll try to ban cyclists from Swan Mtn Rd after the path is completed? I've never had problems with traffic in either direction. I agree with the idea that just widening the road would have been sufficient though, there's not much if any room to widen. I'm going to have to see this before I form an opinion. If this does invite kids and novices to contend with on the path, I'm going to stick to the road.

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    i;m taking my wife and 9 year old up to summit county for labor day weekend. we're staying in breck. i have some longer pass rides planned for myself but we're taking bikes to do some bike path riding as well. is there an online source the summit county bike map? anyone have any advice what would be a fun family ride.

    the 9 year old has a trek kdr1000 and can ride maybe 25 relatively flat miles... dont really wanna subject him to serious climbing yet though. his little legs arent up to it just yet. mabe next year though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badhat View Post
    i;m taking my wife and 9 year old up to summit county for labor day weekend. we're staying in breck. i have some longer pass rides planned for myself but we're taking bikes to do some bike path riding as well. is there an online source the summit county bike map? anyone have any advice what would be a fun family ride.

    the 9 year old has a trek kdr1000 and can ride maybe 25 relatively flat miles... dont really wanna subject him to serious climbing yet though. his little legs arent up to it just yet. mabe next year though.
    The Summit Daily News used to have a link to the bike path maps, but I couldn't find it last time I looked. Plenty of paper copies available around the county, though.

    Depending on your definition of "relatively flat" and "serious climbing", Breckenridge to Frisco and back could be an obvious choice for a family ride. Frisco to Copper and back is another nice ride, I think that that's about the prettiest stretch of bike path in Summit County.

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    we ride all over fort collins, but ive never taken him on any sustained (say.. longer than a half mile, steeper than 3-4%) climbs. i know i'b being vague, i guess its sort of a function of not knowing what hes capable of.

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    So I finally got up to Dillon for the first time since ski season. The new path's entrance is actually on the way to our in-law's house. Who thought that the two lane no shoulder road to get to the bike path would be a great bike route? A couple of times over the weekend we slowed to let the bikers get around the bend and get on the path becuase we couldn't pass with any idea of what was coming our way. That was me, concerned aware biker friendly dude, what about the inhabitants of the trailer park up the road? Me guess is that there will be plenty of close calls just getting to the new path.

    I was telling my wife about all I had read about it and then got a chance to see in person when we took the kids chipmunk feeding at Saphire. From what I could see there was a nice steep downhill with a quick 90 degree turn dumping right out onto Swan Mtn. Road. My review:

    dumb.

    But the kids had a blast feeding the chipmunks

    And we had a blast taking the kids, one in a burly, the other on a tagalong, around the lake and into Frisco for some hot cocoa before the rain hit.

    Another great weekend in paradise.

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    i never updated after our trip.

    i did a lot of riding that weekend, hoosier pass and the copper triangle (which i apparently did backwards: copper>vail>leadville), but didnt get much family riding time until the last day. i was really impressed with the vail pass system, so i got my mom top drop me and my wife and the kid off at the pass and pick us up in vail. they had so much fun. the kid had never done a decent like that, and the wife liked it so much i think it lit a fire under her to get some climbing legs, so we've been doing some easy climbing since. culminating in her completing dam store > estes park > devils gultch > dam store over this past weekend.

    i was so proud of her.

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