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    How did your TBP ride go?

    The start of the day began at 2am for me. I woke up and hopped on my bike 30 min later.
    My first d'oh moment occurred shortly thereafter when leaving my driveway. Due to being groggy I mismanaged my transition from the sidewalk to the street and lost all traction. You would think that after 30,000 miles on a bike I could manage this simple task. The end result was a nice patch of road rash on my left leg. This was compounded by me forgetting my house key. So, I took off and began the ride. BTW there are still a lot of cars out on the road at 2:45 am on a Sat.

    Key points
    -I rode from Thornton to Denver using various surface streets
    -In Lakewood I had some idiot pull out right in front of me on 32nd. I saw what was happening and avoided the accident by going around her back while she almost had a heart attack. Common...idiots. I was running 1200 lumens. Duh
    -I was screamed at by a different female motorist in the first 15 min of the ascent of lookout. Thank goodness for my headphones.
    -In one of the last few switchbacks my rear tire started flatting. Not wanting to walk up lookout or change a tire on the street I hauled arse to the park at the top. I let my club know that I was unable to make the meet up and fixed my tire.
    -Once I hit 103 I started feeling like crap on the ascent but pushed through it. I met up with the club on 103 during a food break. I believe they ran into issues and had a late start.
    -At the first aid station I ate like crazy and had my wound dressed.
    -I started severely sucking after Georgetown and the long climb up i-70 to loveland. There upon I paced a slower rider and kept my heart rate down.
    -Ate like a madman at loveland.
    -My ascent of loveland pass completely bit it. Stopped a couple more times to eat even more food.
    -I found a very attractive lady and paced her up loveland pass at 5mph while desperately wanting my legs to return. At least the scenery was nice.
    -The descent from loveland pass was spectacular hitting speeds of almost 50mph while passing a few cars and a semi. Last year was windy and this year calm. Aero spokes + wind= aggravating.
    -Once the descent was finished something amazing happened. Right at mile 114 for me my legs had returned! Weee!
    -The rest of the ride was uneventful except for a few rain showers.
    -One of these rain showers resulted in an amusing exchange between me and my ride partner AJ.
    The rain was dumping like mad
    Me> At least it is not hailing
    5 secs later it starts hailing like crazy
    Me> You can hit me now.
    -Vail pass was pretty easy this year since I had my legs again.
    -It rained from vail pass to the finish line but it was a warm rain.
    -AJ hammered it faster and faster the closer we were to the finish line. It was not too long before my legs said that this speed while having 150 miles+ on a bike was not going to fly. I dropped back
    -Went to pick up my bag from our SAG and decided to ride. Promptly tipped over. D'oh moment #2

    In summary, adding miles to an already epic ride at the beginning was idiotic but all in all my second triple went well. This was the longest ride I have managed at 162 miles.
    I will gladly add miles to the triple again but using a different method like Mt Evans.
    Now if I could just figure out how to sleep after these rides. My technique of beer, epsom salt bath, and magnesium supplements helped a small amount.

    Anyone have any amusing stories to tell?

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    I will elaborate on my post in the other thread here, expecially since I said I had knee problems. I have just been reminded that IT Band problems are NOT knee problems, even though the pain is on the outside of the knee.

    I started riding with telenick and sniz at about 5:30 and felt pretty good. sniz is a strong rider and we didn't see him again after the first thousand feet of climbing. telenick and I got to the Juniper summit in about 1:45. We were making pretty good time.

    We bundled up with extra clothes for the descent and stashed them in my car in Idaho Springs, where my wife was waiting. I hit 44.5 MPH on that descent. That is fast for me.

    After Georgetown, I started feeling the pain on the outside of my left knee, so I slowed down and spun more. That was the last I saw of telenick and riders I had been passing all morning were now passing me. I made it to Loveland ski area still doing ok, but really dehydrated and realized that I needed to do water and perpetuem. I downed a bunch of water and electrolytes and iced my knee and I felt good again, other than the knee.

    The pain went away half way up the pass and I was surprised how short Loveland pass was. I did pretty well on it. Our descent was slow because of cars that would pass cyclists. Swan Mt. is where the pain really came back, so I backed off until is started pouring rain and rushed into the Frisco rest area right as the rain got really heavy. I stayed there for 50 minutes, hoping for the weather to clear, but it was useless, so I left and that is when I realized that my ride was shot. I could barely pedal with my left leg without is feeling like an icepick was stuck in it.

    I pushed on, overcompensating with my right leg and the skies really opened. I didn't have my shoe covers or leg warmes, just my rain jacket. It started to hail, as I approached Copper, and that hurt. It actually held off for most of my climb up vail pass, but I was slow, pedaling one-legged, and it is fortunate that is an easy climb. It started pouring and hailing again at the top as I settled in for my descent to Avon, and it poured all the way down. I got so cold that I could shift gears and had to keep warming my fingers on my face.

    I thought of quitting and calling my wife for sag, but I just had to finish. I pulled into the finish at 5:30, 12 hours after starting and my wife said I was blue. It had just stopped raining and I went and got changed into warm clothes and started to get blood back into my feet and hands.

    Where was this warm rain that you speak of DataJunkie? I was frozen and lots of it was hail, but I was probably later than you were.
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    Actually, I finished at around the same time as you. However, I was warm all day and wore a jersey and shorts from 2:30 to the vail rest area. Perhaps my recollection of warm rain is due to my wacky temp tolerances plus the warmers I put on at vail. It also helped that I had a ton of energy after loveland pass and was hammering away generating heat.

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    Yes, I wondered if my coldness was because I couldn't crank it up and my left foot froze more than my right because it was just going through the motions.

    You certainly had an epic ride and should feel accomplished. One of these times, we will actually meet up. I still want to do the Evans from Denver ride, but may have to push it off til August, depending on recovery. I am fed up with this problem and am going to see a sports medicine specialist and have my bike fit specifically for an ITBS sufferer as well.

    Unfortunately, I am leaving on another business trip tomorrow, so it will all start the week after.
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    Yes, one of these days.
    I need to tone things down a bit. Otherwise, my body is going to kill me.
    Except that I have trailridge next week.

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    162 miles including the TBP is pretty impressive DJ. Wow!

    This was my first time so I didn't know what to expect. Fortunately I missed most of the rain/hail but had some wet roads. I got a late start at 6:30. I also forgot my gloves and never got around to changing out my drive train like I wanted. So I mashed through with a 39/25 low gear which didn't do my knees any good. I did have a bit of pain on one side on the back outside of the knee where it feels like the calf attaches to some bone or ligaments. Is that an IT band?

    Got to Juniper in 1:45 and found out how cold it could be on the way down. A few times here and on the Loveland pass descent I literally could not feel my hands and wasn't sure where my fingers were unless I looked. I remember one time moving my hand from hood to drop and I couldn't tell if it was even on the bar. Not a good feeling at 40+ mph. Next time I am definately bringing long finger gloves. I also remember getting passed with about 1 foot clearance a few times as I don't like to go much above 40-45. Yikes!

    I felt good until leaving Frisco. The little hills on the bike path seemed like mountains to me so I stopped in Copper Mtn and had a few Gu things. Felt much, much better after that and made it to Vail Pass without much trouble except I had to stand up for some of short steep bits.

    I remember the hammer fest though Vail and on to Avon as well. I caught up to a few of the faster riders but didn't want to expend that much energy to go that pace. Just finishing was enough for me. Made it to Avon at 5:00.

    I saw a fire truck with lights flashing where the trail ends during the Vail descent. I hope it wasn't someone hitting the barrier across the trail. It didn't seem well marked to me and I could imagine a tired first time rider (like me) not paying attention and riding into it. I also saw one guy getting hauled off after a crash west of Vail.

    This was my first road bike experience west of the peak to peak highway and it was fun! My wife picked me up and now she wants to ride the bike trail aournd Vail Pass. Yahoo.

    Big thanks to the organizers and especially all the folks on the side of the road who cheered and rang bells. That was the best part of the whole shebang!!!!

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    I do not know if that is the IT band. Perhaps darkstar can speak to that one.
    I must run warm or something was wrong. I was carrying a yellow messenger bag with knee warmers, arm warmers, long fingered gloves, toe warmers, and a clear rain jacket. Yet all day I was wearing my golden bear bike jersey, a base layer (not a thermal base layer), and shorts. In fact I put my bag in our SAG vehicle and did not touch it till the school. I grabbed my rain jacket at that point.
    I was not cold until the aid station at the vail rest area. Last year the first descent froze me solid while I was carrying more insulation (I was fatter) and wearing more thermal gear.

    It is good you enjoyed it. You may have just found a new way to empty your pocketbook.
    Kudos to the support folks and the cheering crowds. It is nice to experience road cycling in a positive manner.

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    That is not the IT Band. It is on the outside and really goes all the way down the outside of the thight and attaches at the knee. ITBS or Iliotibial Band Syndrome is a repetitive stress injury and generally not from grinding high gears. The pain is caused from irritation or tears in the tendon where it goes over the knee. Mine comes from some inherent problems in my body (one leg longer than the other) and I already have show shims, but may end up using a shorter crank on that side.

    I really appreciated people out cheering in the rain. It helps. As for GU, I was annoyed that there was no gel at the stations. I assume you had it or bought it in Copper? I had a few packs with me, but didn't fill a gel flask because I assumed there would be plenty.

    The watermelon was great though. As someone who cannot eat peanut butter, I did find my options weren't so great in support food.
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    Hey Guys...

    I had a good ride even though I was feeling kind of bad due to no sleep. I've got to sort out pre-event insomnia, somehow.

    I got up there at about 4:45 (google maps overestimated how long it takes to get there) and saved a couple of parking spots in the RTD lot for friends I was meeting. This did not make me popular with the other parkers, sorry! I saw telenick and sniz and dark13star, and waved goodbye as they departed - my girlfriends weren't quite ready to roll. Never saw those guys on the road again for the rest of the day. Maybe someday we'll actually ride together - hope so!

    Anyway, I rode with my club girlsfriends, M, D, and D's sister-in-law J. M, D and I are club mates and ride together fairly often, and they are why I did the TBP this year. M and I were climbing the exact same speed 2 weeks ago when we all road the Copper Triangle route as a training ride together, so we had decided to try to stay together. D and J were a bit slower, and we thought we wouldn't stay together, but it turned out what with J renting a 10-pound-lighter road bike (!!!) and D having a good day, we road all as a group quite a bit, the entire first pass, and much of the flatter sections leading up to the highway.

    Having the group was great fun on the road, and M and I took turns with our bad and good bits, so we were able to share the work well - but it did lead to several rather extended rest stops. D and M and J all had cheering sections - husbands and babies, and friends, oh my! So that added some dillydally time too. D's baby is about 15 months old, who could resist stopping for a hug from their own baby!

    The upshot was my elapsed time was 2:36 longer than ride time - that seems a lot. I pretty much was suffering the first half - wanted to stop and take a nap - and then after the Loveland aid station I rallied and just got stronger from then on.

    At the Frisco aid station I ran into a friend "Howard" from a different virtual and IRL community, and he joined M and I for the rest of the day. He told me he was having a bad ride - went out too hard -- and also that DJ had probably quit - so DJ, I'm really glad you got it together and finished. The three of us rode the bike path to copper together (with about 5 drops of rain), then Howard and I pulled some wheelsucker dude from Salt Lake City (kidding, he was nice and it didn't hurt us at all) up the pass. On the other side we regrouped after the descent, and then even though Howard is like 15" taller than M (and me) and weighs 80 pounds more, M got the bit in her teeth and she dragged us kicking and screaming for mercy to Avon.

    Iowegian, did you actually see the person on the path getting moved from the path to the road? I was stopped in a pack of cyclists on the path while they were moving the gurney, I wonder if we were in the same pack. M and I are both short and were wearing club jerseys with white on top, blue on the bottom and acid green flowers. I had on eye-searing green armwarmers, and Howard is huge and was wearing orange Club Hypoxia kit.

    Thanks for reading!
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    Strange. I was having a hard ride but was nowhere near needing to quit. Just had to take it easy until things started feeling better. Bad howard!

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    I had a decent ride (for me). 9.5 hrs ride time, 11 and change total. My legs left me from Georgetown to Loveland Pass but felt great afterward. I could've done without the rain, which started as soon as I arrived at the Vail Pass rest stop and didn't let up until just before I reached Avon.

    I saw the guy who wrecked west of Vail being tended to by a police officer. He was standing, looking dazed with blood streaming down his face. Hopefully, since he was standing it wasn't too bad. People that I talked to later that had witnessed it said he hit hard, bouncing a couple of times - face planting the pavement - scary stuff.
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    valygrl, I must have been a bit behind you. The guy I saw was on the gurney, over the barrier and next to the ambulance. He had a neck brace on but I didn't see any blood on his face. He seemed to be OK as the crew looked relaxed and in no hurry to move him out.

    I did bring my own GU and some honey shots. I tried to open the first one while riding and managed to get honey all over myself (lesson learned...). They were my emergency supplies and well worth it, I can't believe how effective they were. The watermelon was great but I don't think there are many calories there. Maybe it was the altitude but I didn't have much appetite for the food at the aid stations.

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    valygirl, don't sweat it. I had 3 hours of stopped time, between icing my knee and (unsuccessfully) waiting out a thunderstorm. Good meeting you, if only briefly.
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    I had... uh
    Start 2:45 am
    End 5:30 pm
    12 hrs rolling
    2 hrs 45 min stopped time? hmmm
    *shrugs*
    It is what it is. Last year I have roughly 9hrs rolling and 5-6 stopped. Don't ask.

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    We started at 5:45 and had a rather uneventfull day. Happy to say that we finished with at 2:15 with a ride time of 7:59 and elapsed time of about 8:30.

    This was our third Triple start and 2nd completion (we tried that one year in the rain and bailed...). I keep saying "we" b/c my wife and I rode on our tandem.

    My only complaint was the "garden hose" water in Frisco... other than that, great day, great ride, no mechanicals and we finished with just a sprinkle of rain coming into East Vail.

    Hats off to Team Evergreen for putting on another great ride! Also, congrats to all those who finished, no matter how you slice it, 120 miles an 10k of climbing is a long day!

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    that's it, I'm not riding with you guys. 1:45 to Juniper Pass? takes me almost twice that. Sounds like typical mtn weather, but hail/rain sucks. congrats on great rides--

    Oh, and dj, 165mi to ride the triple is dumb. Much props.

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    Okay, I just wrote my first post to Bike Forums ever, a pretty long one too, and clicked Post Reply above instead of Post Quick Reply below, and then lost the whole thing. Bummer. Trying again...

    I'm the "Howard" who rode with DataJunkie during the first half of TBP, and with valygrl and M during the last half. This year's ride seemed a bit tougher than years past, perhaps due to light headwinds from Idaho Springs to Loveland Basin, perhaps due to a bit more heat than usual, or perhaps due to my lack of training compared to previous years. I only have 5,000 miles on the year so far.

    Anyway, all my friends left at 6:15 a.m., but I stuck around to find a friend, AJ, and we left at 6:30, catching up with everyone else before Juniper Pass. At the aid station, I saw DataJunkie for the first time that day with blood all over his knee and shin... and with about 60 miles already tallied. Climbed Lookout Mountain too, DJ? Maniac.

    I'm like valygrl such that I don't like to dilly dally at aid stations. So after Georgetown, I began to hammer, leaving everyone behind. Fortunately, I caught up to valygrl and M after Summit High School, where the water did indeed taste of garden hose. We rode most the rest of the day together thanks to M, who likes to fly and doesn't mind pulling a 6'-3", 200# behemouth like myself.

    We avoided all the bad weather, although we stopped to put on rain gear once when it looked like the skies were about to open up. They didn't. Arriving in Avon at 4:50, I grabbed some dinner as the skies began to get wet. I didn't mind eating soggy potatoes and chocolate chip cookies as I waited to celebrate the arrival of my (very soggy) friends.

    Next up: Driving support for the pros this Saturday during the Bob Cook Memorial Challenge, and then climbing from Loveland to Trail Ridge Road and back with the club and DataJunkie (the maniac) on Tuesday, July 21.

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    The project I am on went nuts while I was on vacation. I think I will be coming down with a cold next Tuesday. I am not missing trail ridge for the 2nd year in a row. *cough* *cough*
    Now if I could just stop limping.

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    Hi HowardLaughed. Sometimes, if you are lucky (and maybe only if you are using firefox), you can hit the back button and then Ctrl-Z for undo, and your post that you browsed away from by clicking the wrong reply button might reappear. (I bet you can figure out why I know that).

    Welcome to Bikeforums.
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    NOW you tell me, valygrl. Yes, I hit the back button, but no on the Ctrl-Z. Next time, next time. Of course, there won't be a next time because I won't hit the wrong reply button. But thanks anyway.

    And thanks for the welcome after my awkward virginal post.

    Now to the important stuff... how was the hot tub and beer after the ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by superdex View Post
    that's it, I'm not riding with you guys. 1:45 to Juniper Pass? takes me almost twice that. Sounds like typical mtn weather, but hail/rain sucks. congrats on great rides--
    Well, I am living proof that you can get there in 1:45 and still have a 12 hour Triple.

    DJ, I wish I could stop limping too. Just flew to DC and was very happy to have an exit row. They were concerned about me sitting in it with a knee brace on, so I asked them if I would have to kick the exit open. They don't like humor. Made me prove that I could stand up normally, so I didn't get reseated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dark13star View Post
    Well, I am living proof that you can get there in 1:45 and still have a 12 hour Triple.

    DJ, I wish I could stop limping too. Just flew to DC and was very happy to have an exit row. They were concerned about me sitting in it with a knee brace on, so I asked them if I would have to kick the exit open. They don't like humor. Made me prove that I could stand up normally, so I didn't get reseated.
    I thought I was the only one: 1:49 to Juniper (both 2007 and 2008) and 12 hours total time for the ride. Didn't get there this time, but next year! It is hard doing that ride when you live at sea level....

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    I was really disappointed by the food because they didn't have any Clif bloks and there were only bars at a couple of aid stations, so I ended up shoving a bunch of cookies and muffins into a ziplock bag and munching on those. However, they made me so thirsty that I had to keep on drinking Gatorade and stopping to pee. So much for the liquid-only diet I was hoping for. I got to the end in 7:15 of elapsed time (~6:44 riding), but got passed by a guy on a mountain bike going up Loveland pass. The belly full of cookies and a strong head-wind slowed me down big time on Vail Pass, but I managed to pick up a couple of guys on the way down to form a paceline into Avon. Not a bad ride overall (except the food) after having my bike stolen a week before and the weather held up for most of the riders.

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    Ok. It took me three days to recover enough to want to ride. Boy did I over do it.
    However, my club is thinking of a self supported out and back triple next year with a layover in Avon. Will I ride it? Heck yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DataJunkie View Post
    Ok. It took me three days to recover enough to want to ride. Boy did I over do it.
    However, my club is thinking of a self supported out and back triple next year with a layover in Avon. Will I ride it? Heck yes.
    I'm in.
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