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    Possible move to STLS, MO...which suburb is "best" for a bike commuter?

    Family of five considering a move to the St. Louis area. #1 criteria is living in the very best school district, #2 is living near a retail mecca with lots of resources for young families, and #3 is to live within cycling distance of my employer in downtown STLS (900 block of Chestnut St). I'm willing to cycle no more than 14 miles one way and avoid the ghettos if at all possible.

    I do not wish to use any form of mass transit nor to live in the city of STLS-proper. My tax man has already run my 2011 income against the MO tax code and the penalty I must pay for the privilege of living in MO is very high (~$450/mo for state and city impacts over and above where I live now!))...because of that, I will not live in the city proper so as not to reward the city leadership with more tax revenue.

    Where does this cycling-focused group of folks recommend?

    Thank you!
    maximumrob

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    No suggestions at all? I see 7 pages of Missouri folk in the "Missouri" thread...thought somebody would have an opinion/experience to share.

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    Maximumrob,

    I live in the area, but way outside your distance limit from downtown. I'm not real versed in regards to bike commuting in relation to the areas where you would need to live to meet that requirement. There is a pretty good St. Louis cycling website at www.stlbiking.com. You might get more responses if you posted your questions there.

    Off the top of my head, I would think Kirkwood, Webster Groves, Creve Couer, Clayton, Ladue all might fit the bill. I have no idea on the schools.

    Good luck on figuring this out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maximumrob View Post
    No suggestions at all? I see 7 pages of Missouri folk in the "Missouri" thread...thought somebody would have an opinion/experience to share.
    Seems to me after reading your two posts that the people of St Louis may not want you as a neighbor, so no reply. You "don't want this", "won't have that", refuse to pay tax, and demand fabulous education system for your children, and, of course, no ghettos. Maybe a more friendly approach would get a better response next time.
    If I was a St Louis resident, I think I'd encourage you to think about staying put in Texas, isn't that the promised land after all?
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    I thought it would only be honest to ask if there is a place in MO like I have now in TX. Why would one look for anything less than the best for one's family?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty View Post
    Seems to me after reading your two posts that the people of St Louis may not want you as a neighbor, so no reply. You "don't want this", "won't have that", refuse to pay tax, and demand fabulous education system for your children, and, of course, no ghettos. Maybe a more friendly approach would get a better response next time.
    If I was a St Louis resident, I think I'd encourage you to think about staying put in Texas, isn't that the promised land after all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maximumrob View Post
    Family of five considering a move to the St. Louis area. #1 criteria is living in the very best school district, #2 is living near a retail mecca with lots of resources for young families, and #3 is to live within cycling distance of my employer in downtown STLS (900 block of Chestnut St). I'm willing to cycle no more than 14 miles one way and avoid the ghettos if at all possible.

    [This paragraph has been omitted due to an over abundance of 'tude. ]
    Where does this cycling-focused group of folks recommend?

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    #1 Ladue and Clayton school districts are both excellent. Plan on spending a f-ton of money on your house, and a buttload on local real estate taxes.
    #2 The Galleria is a HUGE shopping center in Clayton,if that's what you're referring to as a "retail Mecca"(if I were Islamic, I'd find this very insulting.)
    #3 Both of the aforementioned localities fall within your 14mile criteria. You're not going to get to your job without traveling at least SOME distance through what you might consider an "Unsavory" neighborhood, unless you're willing to ride pretty far out of a straight line to work.
    I'm not pokey, but I'm certainly not speedy... sorta half-fast, I guess...

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    That's what I'm talkin' about. Thanks shadoman! I'll look into those areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maximumrob View Post
    I do not wish to use any form of mass transit nor to live in the city of STLS-proper. My tax man has already run my 2011 income against the MO tax code and the penalty I must pay for the privilege of living in MO is very high (~$450/mo for state and city impacts over and above where I live now!))...because of that, I will not live in the city proper so as not to reward the city leadership with more tax revenue.
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    One point: If you work or live in the city, you have to pay the 1% income tax. Of course if you actually live in the city, you'll be paying property taxes, sales taxes, and other fees there.

    Speaking of property taxes, cars are part of the property tax in Missouri. You can avoid it by moving over to Illinois; however, I don't recommend that.

    My son just moved out of the City to Chesterfield which has some of the best schools in the area. Great bike riding there also. However it would put you outside of your commuting limits.

    As far as mass transit, you'd be foolish to not consider using the MetroLink light rail system on bad weather days at least. The weather up here is much colder and wetter than Plano.

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