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    New Yorkers: If moving north of NYC where would you relocate for the best roadriding?

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    YOU: currently a New York City dweller, part of a dual-income-no-kids household, fleeing the five boroughs to greener pastures upstate. You both hold jobs in the city that you plan to keep.

    The requirements:

    1) Must have easy access to good road riding. Hills or no hills, doesn't matter. Insert your own personal definition of "good road riding" here.

    2) Must be north of the city, but within a 1 hour absolute-maximum commute by a reasonable form of mass transit. (We drive, but we do not want to commute in our cars.) And north because our families are up there.

    3) Slight preference for east side of the Hudson River, but not a requirement.

    So, where would you move?

    Any responses? Ready, set, go!

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    Hard to tell without knowing what your budget is for relocating, but it seems like you want to be either in Westchester or Fairfield Counties. You may want to check out the local clubs' mass rides and get a grand tour of the two places. For Fairfield county, the ride's at the end of the month:

    Bloominmetric.com

    For Westchester, the ride's in the fall:

    Westchester Cycle Club/My WCC: Welcome to the Westchester Cycle Club

    Northern NJ/Rockland County, as you may know, also has great routes. For that, you can either ride across the GWB anytime and up 9W or you can join NYCC's Escape NY, also in the fall:

    http://nycc.org/

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    My son lives in Riverdale which is in the Bronx. There are many single family homes and apartment buildings. It has easy access to Manhattan via the #1 subway and buses.

    He's a short 1/2 mile walk/run/rid to the Henry Hudson bridge which leads to Manhattan's north tip. From there you can take the greenway to the GW Bridge and up Route 9 to Bear Mountain... a very popular bike route. There are also many road and off-road route through the Bronx and to Westchester. Terrain is hills and very interesting.

    He's done rides north to the Bear Mnt. Bridge, over to the west side of the Hudson and down Rt9 to the GW and back home.

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    Peekskill puts you a skip, hop, and a jump from Harriman which has fine roads for riding on most of the year and great hiking in the winter.

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    Honestly, a lot of it will depend on your housing budget. There's a substantial difference in the carrying costs of a house in the various places people have mentioned. You mentioned a slight preference for east of Hudson, but that will also bring you the highest property taxes. Depending on where you settle, you can easily have a $30K annual property tax bill in Westchester or Fairfield counties. Rockland is cheaper, but you also have to balance the commute issues because some areas have train access, some don't.

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    Riverdale and Westchester good access to Manhattan for work if you stay near the Hudson or Harlem lines of the metro north and good access to riding you can get to everywhere from Central Park to Bear Mountain or Storm King. The South and North Trailways Paths, Bike Sundays on the Bronx River. And all the hills you could want to ride.

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    To stay within an hour commute (by train) of the city, east of the Hudson I'd say Westchester or lower Farifield counties. There are some great cycling groups up here, WCC, as already mentioned and also Ridgefield Bicycle company over the border in CT. We have all types of riding around here. There is very little that will be dead flat but you can usually avoid the bigger climbs (if so inclined, I'm not. ). Plus there are the bike trails and MTB spots as well. Basically a little bit of everything, your Crosscheck will feel right at home.

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    Thanks. Riverdale's a very good option. I've often thought about that area. By the water, it's probably the most bucolic of neighborhood within the city limits.

    If I were painting and ideal picture, the only drawback is that, yes, while it's convenient to the city, it's not such great riding "out the door" of the home. It's standard-issue five-borough traffic. That said, it is a really nice area.

    I'm thinking of checking out Pelham Manor. I'm familiar with areas adjacent to the river from riding, but I've done relatively less riding on the sound side of Westchester.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrettsin View Post
    Riverdale and Westchester good access to Manhattan for work if you stay near the Hudson or Harlem lines of the metro north and good access to riding you can get to everywhere from Central Park to Bear Mountain or Storm King. The South and North Trailways Paths, Bike Sundays on the Bronx River. And all the hills you could want to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonJW View Post
    Snap judgement / simulation:

    YOU: currently a New York City dweller, part of a dual-income-no-kids household, fleeing the five boroughs to greener pastures upstate. You both hold jobs in the city that you plan to keep.

    The requirements:

    1) Must have easy access to good road riding. Hills or no hills, doesn't matter. Insert your own personal definition of "good road riding" here.

    2) Must be north of the city, but within a 1 hour absolute-maximum commute by a reasonable form of mass transit. (We drive, but we do not want to commute in our cars.) And north because our families are up there.

    3) Slight preference for east side of the Hudson River, but not a requirement.

    So, where would you move?

    Any responses? Ready, set, go!
    East of Hudson and 1Hr from NYC puts you on a line of White Plains to Greenwich. All very expensive to buy and pay taxes. Anything south has congested roads for cycling, one of the reasons the Westchester roadie ride leaves from White Plans and goes north.

    So no great suggestions as that one hr. rule puts you into congested regions. That's true on Long Island as well. To get to quite roads you're going to be 1-1/2 hrs by train away from Penn Station.

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    Rockland county NY and Bergen County NJ offer access to great riding, but the only mass transit option on the west side of the river is pretty much buses which get you into the same traffic mess as driving. On the east side of the river the riding can be just as good and you have the Metro North options. I might look into the area from Tarrytown north to Ossining in Westchester.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonJW View Post
    Thanks. Riverdale's a very good option. I've often thought about that area. By the water, it's probably the most bucolic of neighborhood within the city limits.

    If I were painting and ideal picture, the only drawback is that, yes, while it's convenient to the city, it's not such great riding "out the door" of the home. It's standard-issue five-borough traffic. That said, it is a really nice area.

    I'm thinking of checking out Pelham Manor. I'm familiar with areas adjacent to the river from riding, but I've done relatively less riding on the sound side of Westchester.
    Check out Woodlawn in the Bronx also. I love this neighborhood. It is green, safe, inexpensive and Manhattan is only a short distance away. It is right next to the MetroNorth, the greenways, Van Cortlandt Park, the subways and the towns of lower Westchester. Also Yonkers is great for hill riding and a jumping point for weekend cyclists heading north. That is this Bronxite's two cents FWIW.

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    I grew up in Rockland (area between Monsey and Suffern) and I used to ride around Bear Mtn and Harriman all the time, as well as down through northern NJ Bergen county. But that was 35-45 years ago, and my home town has become a Hassadic ghetto since then. But those areas I mentioned are still good riding, I've heard.

    Lots of choices for the commute, depending upon where in Manhattan you go. Usually either the Palisades to the GW Bridge, or NY State Thruway to the Tappan Zee Bridge to Bronx River Pkwy, or Conrail to the PATH trains.
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    Riverdale & Woodlawn have easy access to the Old Croton Aqueduct trail and the south county trail. Both trails get you out of the urbs in a hurry and allow you to enjoy the many pleasant roads around northern Westchester. Likewise Yonkers and Mount Vernon. If you have the dough, check out the river towns further north (Hastings-on-Hudson, Dobbs Ferry, Tarrytown, e.g.). All are on the Hudson line which is a beautiful train ride, and all allow you to jump on the Aqueduct trail for points north, as well as having some lovely local roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aixaix View Post
    Riverdale & Woodlawn have easy access to the Old Croton Aqueduct trail and the south county trail. Both trails get you out of the urbs in a hurry and allow you to enjoy the many pleasant roads around northern Westchester. Likewise Yonkers and Mount Vernon. If you have the dough, check out the river towns further north (Hastings-on-Hudson, Dobbs Ferry, Tarrytown, e.g.). All are on the Hudson line which is a beautiful train ride, and all allow you to jump on the Aqueduct trail for points north, as well as having some lovely local roads.
    Noting that the Old Croton Aqueduct trail isn't really suitable to 23mm road bike tires, if that's the OP's main ride. Better choice is the South and North County trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
    Noting that the Old Croton Aqueduct trail isn't really suitable to 23mm road bike tires, if that's the OP's main ride. Better choice is the South and North County trails.
    If the OP is riding a Surly Cross Check as listed in his signature, this is not an issue. Fwiw, I have ridden much of the OCA on tubulars and though I wouldn't recommend it, it can be done. The trail is mostly hardpack. As long as it is dry, it isn't too bad. Add water, and the mud makes it tougher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aixaix View Post
    If the OP is riding a Surly Cross Check as listed in his signature, this is not an issue. Fwiw, I have ridden much of the OCA on tubulars and though I wouldn't recommend it, it can be done. The trail is mostly hardpack. As long as it is dry, it isn't too bad. Add water, and the mud makes it tougher.
    We're lucky that we have the N/S-County Trailways and the OCA to get us to points north. The Crosscheck with 30mm tires is fine.

    Speaking of Riverdale, anyone ever ride their mountain bikes in the woods south of Wave Hill?

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